That's probably the order I would've put too, unless Teague pulls some crazy wins in the last few weeks.

Happy for Ratts to interview, but I think it'll be too hard. That said, I'd seek the input of Kade Simpson and Marc Murphy. There are known unknowns there. I'm hoping they chat to Guy McKenna as well...not for a senior gig, but for a Director of Coaching & Performance role.

Can we let guy win something at my local club first?

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I can't see any argument for appointing a Voss over a Ratten.

Watch us stuff this up and appoint a Brad Scott or a Ross Lyon (who would be a very bad fit for Carlton).


For once ... please make the right decision.

Either BRETT RATTEN or DAVID TEAGUE.

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Ok...please enlighten me. Make an argument for Ratts over Voss. You have an opinion, but what's it based on?

OK ... To start with:

Career coaching record.

Ratten: 121 matches, 50.4% Win. (started right at the end of 2007 ... we finished second last that year)

Voss: 109 matches, 39.4% Win (started 2009 after Brisbane finished 10th)


When Ratten took over, Carlton were at rock bottom (we had a really crap list) and had gone through the miserable Pagan era where we had won multiple wood spoons. When Voss took over Brisbane they were 10th. Since then Ratten has served mainly under Clarkson which for me is a big tick. He was very well respected at Hawthorn as he is now at St Kilda. Voss has been assistant to Hinkley.


Shall I go on?

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jeez, it's gonna be hard to overlook Teague at this point. players love him, has shown he's capable, good gameday manager and he's getting results.


our list was always better than the results bolton manufactured ... next year imo we'll go top 6 if we get this next appointment right.

No...all good. Thanks. I don't want Ratts because last time around he struggled mightily to get the relationships right. He played favourites and caused division. He was ultra defensive toward staff. He didn't delegate and didn't get the balance right. So he has probably improved in these areas...but I'd prefer that be done at St.Kilda.

That's why my vote is still other...but a leaning toward a Clarkson or failing that a Teague with someone to alleviate the pressure and provide a sane voice when everything seems insane.

Malthouse ready for the call .. apparently

I'm free...

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Congratulations CK95

Fair enough!

I would be very happy with Clarkson, Teague or Ratten.

What I don't want is Scott, Lyon or Voss.

But ... I have a bad feeling we are gunna stuff this up again.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Awfully hard to soar like an eagle when surrounded by turkeys.

Nigh on impossible when the decision makers appoint an overly ambitious type to a role that’s designed to fashion said turkeys into something useful and be a conduit to the chief strategist & as a result, it turns into a wedge. Right role, wrong person.

‘Director of’, ‘Head of’, ‘GM of’, whatever label it has, is a role that needs the ultimate team player to succeed. Because, despite the label, it ain’t the top job.

Fagan spent plenty of time in the role at Hawthorn. A few premiership coaches would’ve learned more about how to manage managers from him than they would’ve from Clarkson. Ask yourself ‘why Brisbane?’ Take a look at the types he has surrounded himself with.

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I don’t get the highlighted bit. Who is the ‘overly ambitious’ person you are referring to? Icke? Or Ratten? Richardson? Sorry, I’m not being a smart arse - I’m genuinely trying to understand.

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Richardson.

The job he had at Carlton wasn’t the job he wanted. As it was at Essendon*, who were going with Hird after the internal promotion of Knights didn’t work out. Same deal at Port, who he left hanging.

Bloke was/is a driven individual. No beef with that. If kept in check, it’s an attractive character trait.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

OK, thanks.

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

I’m expecting at least 2 more wins, and decent showings in the other games.

That should be enough to get the job. More than that he’s almost a miracle worker, win 1 or less then a lot of the good work will be seen as a new coach bump.

100% agree. Seems a bit smug and aloof, hardly the sort of person I’d want deciding who we go with as a new coach.

Barring crazy injuries if we lost all those games that would be a massive disappointment and would mean we have played much worse than we have last 6 weeks.

If we keep playing to a similar level, surely we win another 2.