So, a what if scenario:
If we did get Shiel in the middle would've he been enough to win the following games?
Round 4 - Suns by 4
Round 6 - Hawks by 5
Round 10 - Saints by 13
Round 13 - Dogs by 3
Round 16 - Demons by 5
If we won the above we'd be in the top 8 and on the verge of playing finals, instead of looking for a new head coach at the end of season. Plus we'd be signing Coniglio and others papers already, with us being the next club on the rise.
It's funny how the dices roll and the irony of what has been and what could've been.

Still 5 games to go and who knows what will come.

And all 5 of those are loseable games.
And a few are winnable.
So we can wait a bit and learn more on Teague.

We also won by not much against Sydney, dockers - lost them and we would be wooden spoon

No because we wouldn't have won the game we won with Teague under Bolton.


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Yeah, I don't think the point is being answered.

It's about having another A-Grade mid in our team and the effect it could've had in our close losses this year.

Get Shiel!

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Hasn't Shiel been a bit Shiet for the dopers?

Nah. Bolts would have played him as a high half forward.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Please tell me this Lyon talk is just about click bait and sales by the journo's.....Pleeeeeeeease!!

I guess that depends on what is Shiet.
(Info off of the AFL stats on the phone app.)

Some of his positive averages so far this year:
Disposals: 26.1 @ 66%
Contested Pos: 11.3
Uncontested Pos: 14.5
Score involvements: 5.6
Marks: 3.1
Clearances: 5.4
w/Centre Clearances: 2.7
Tackles: 5.1
Inside 50s: 5.1
One percenters: 1.1

As a comparison with Crippa:
Disposals: 26.9 @ 75%
Contested Pos: 16.3
Uncontested Pos: 10.9
Score involvements: 5.6
Marks: 3.3
Clearances: 7.9
w/Centre Clearances: 3.3
Tackles: 6.1
Inside 50s: 2.7
One percenters: 1.5

We get Shiel we probably don’t get Setterfield.

I am very happy with where Setterfield is starting to track and will take the extra 5 years of service.

We would've got both but not Stocker or 1st round pick this year.

I guess I would want a bit better than 66%DE for a mid who is more of an outside uncontested player.

Giving up what Essendon* did for a guy that gets the ball on the outside and burns it I am entirely grateful that we got setterfield and stocker instead.

X2.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Hmm, 54 pages, wonder if this thread will make the ton.

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That might be true but we wouldn't have paid what * did. In-fact if the rumours are true we could've stole him if we gave up Walsh (glad we didn't though).

As for 66%DE........our mids are:
Walsh 66%
E.Curnow 66%
Murphy 67%
Setterfield 61%
Dow 64%
SPS 69%

Not really setting the world on fire.

The fact is and going by stats alone. We could've had a better year if we had Shiel in the middle to support Crippa as an inside and outside mid (as per his disposals). Not to mention the size of him compared to our kids. Plus who knows if he would've been better with the support of Cripps vs the support he gets at the other mob*.

OK, so we’ve established that we may, or may not, have won more games this year if we’d got Shiel instead of Setterfield and/or Stocker, but not necessarily and maybe it would have been instead of Walsh, who might have, but who hasn’t, or not necessarily, or I'm not at able to say whether he has, there would have been which, had it occurred, on which I cannot comment, would now have been decided, if it had, that they would now do.

Now we’ve cleared that up, let’s go back to talking about who our next coach will be.

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Nice idea.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Why didn't you suggest to fold the club effective immediately after missing out on Shiel?

Thank you Sir Humphrey...