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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:54 pm 
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I can't believe it has come to this.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:54 pm 
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missnaut wrote:
All these Sunday games don't help.
Sick of being extra sad on Sunday night.



It’s better than being sad for the WHOLE weekend.



I’m just sad for the whole week no matter when we play. Except the week after Easter when we beat the Bulldogs.

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 Post subject: Re: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:02 pm 
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kezza wrote:
I can't believe it has come to this.

Me too kezza.
It is recurring nightmare.

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 Post subject: Re: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:06 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
kezza wrote:
I can't believe it has come to this.

Me too kezza.
It is recurring nightmare.

Sure is, with no end in sight.


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 Post subject: Re: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2019 2:08 pm 
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honestly,
I have a strategy in place this week.
listen on radio only whilst doing other things..online games..cleaning house etc.
No tv unless we are clearly ahead in last q.
sanity saver.
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 Post subject: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2019 2:50 pm 
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Toranasaurus wrote:
I stopped paying much attention to footy during the dregs of the Malthouse era. This is far, far sadder. I only listen on the radio while I'm doing something else. Even then I tune out when I can sense we haven't come to play. And that is pretty much every round.

Our games are dull and predictable. If you can't entertain you're finished.


We didn’t think it could get any worse and yet it has.

I’ve actually lost any faith that anyone at the club has any idea what they are doing.

I think too much faith has been placed in SOS as list manager and he’s tried the GWS strategy with about a fifth of the early picks, and we have about 1/5th of the talent.


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 Post subject: Re: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:28 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:57 pm 
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I was in the sugar coaters corner until the loss to St.kilda.
Bolton’s skating on some very thin ice at the moment.
I believe he’s 99% out the door at this stage.
We have a spine to work with minus a ruck.
We’ve lost too many winnable games this year.
We need a big bodied mid to protect Cripps and share the load otherwise it’ll be Judd all over again


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 Post subject: Re: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:42 pm 
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Rocky Henderson wrote:
I was in the sugar coaters corner until the loss to St.kilda.
Bolton’s skating on some very thin ice at the moment.
I believe he’s 99% out the door at this stage.
We have a spine to work with minus a ruck.
We’ve lost too many winnable games this year.
We need a big bodied mid to protect Cripps and share the load otherwise it’ll be Judd all over again


This is true


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 Post subject: Re: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:46 pm 
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Rocky Henderson wrote:
I was in the sugar coaters corner until the loss to St.kilda.
Bolton’s skating on some very thin ice at the moment.
I believe he’s 99% out the door at this stage.
We have a spine to work with minus a ruck.
We’ve lost too many winnable games this year.
We need a big bodied mid to protect Cripps and share the load otherwise it’ll be Judd all over again



This is SOS’s fault not Bolton’s.

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 Post subject: Re: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:51 am 
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AGRO wrote:
Rocky Henderson wrote:
I was in the sugar coaters corner until the loss to St.kilda.
Bolton’s skating on some very thin ice at the moment.
I believe he’s 99% out the door at this stage.
We have a spine to work with minus a ruck.
We’ve lost too many winnable games this year.
We need a big bodied mid to protect Cripps and share the load otherwise it’ll be Judd all over again



This is SOS’s fault not Bolton’s.


Not really.

Charlie Curnow was recruited as a big bodied mid.
Everyone has fallen in lovewith Charlie as a forward and some even suggest we keep him out of the midfield to avoid injury.
It's footy FFS.

Then there's Jack who volved as a good big bodied mid in the VFL and was welcomed back to the seniors to play anywhere but...
Jack was in the top 5 runners during the preseason.

SOS got Kennedy from GWS as a big bodied mid. Bombers and Hawks we in the market for him at the time, and SOS won that.
No one knew he was going to injure his ankle in round 1 last year and carry that injury for the year.
Kennedy has failed to show hy he was worth trading for.

SOS was also after Steele and Hopman. Wish we got Hopman, and still do.

Setterfield was the most recent acquisiton. Its his first year post ACL, let alone having played less than 10 games of AFL, so we shouldn't be expecting too much from him this year

Nah, SOS has delivered, and it is the MC and coaches decisions to play Cripps with Fisher, SPS or Dow by his side, feeding from him.

The MC and coach have choices, but they choose to leave it all to Cripps to feed the ball out.
That's putting all your eggs in one basket IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:24 pm 
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Bondi, I agree with your comments asking why we haven't played Charlie on the ball. Especially when we were playing too many tall forwards. Also cannot fathom why we persist with trying to make Ed Curnow a small defensive forward when he is one of the best run-with on-ballers. Ed has been kept on the forward line in games where opposition mids were running amok. Both Curnows on the ball would provide the strong body support that Cripps needs.

We seem to only make strategy decisions out of desperation. An example is playing Casboult as a key back. This was suggested preseason but only came about when we ran out of key backmen after the Jones injury. When Liam returns. I think it still worth persisting with Casboult as the 2nd key back, freeing up Weitering and Marchbank who are good intercept players.

Another comment on Charlie.... last year he was close to our best player. This year not so prolific - so why keep him deep on the forward line for long periods in a game when we are not getting the ball past centre. He probably had those few average games because he was getting frostbite down forward without the ball coming near him.

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 Post subject: Re: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:40 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
AGRO wrote:
Rocky Henderson wrote:
I was in the sugar coaters corner until the loss to St.kilda.
Bolton’s skating on some very thin ice at the moment.
I believe he’s 99% out the door at this stage.
We have a spine to work with minus a ruck.
We’ve lost too many winnable games this year.
We need a big bodied mid to protect Cripps and share the load otherwise it’ll be Judd all over again



This is SOS’s fault not Bolton’s.


Not really.

Charlie Curnow was recruited as a big bodied mid.
Everyone has fallen in lovewith Charlie as a forward and some even suggest we keep him out of the midfield to avoid injury.
It's footy FFS.

Then there's Jack who volved as a good big bodied mid in the VFL and was welcomed back to the seniors to play anywhere but...
Jack was in the top 5 runners during the preseason.

SOS got Kennedy from GWS as a big bodied mid. Bombers and Hawks we in the market for him at the time, and SOS won that.
No one knew he was going to injure his ankle in round 1 last year and carry that injury for the year.
Kennedy has failed to show hy he was worth trading for.

SOS was also after Steele and Hopman. Wish we got Hopman, and still do.

Setterfield was the most recent acquisiton. Its his first year post ACL, let alone having played less than 10 games of AFL, so we shouldn't be expecting too much from him this year

Nah, SOS has delivered, and it is the MC and coaches decisions to play Cripps with Fisher, SPS or Dow by his side, feeding from him.

The MC and coach have choices, but they choose to leave it all to Cripps to feed the ball out.
That's putting all your eggs in one basket IMO.


Gotta agree with your points Bondi
Bolton's stubborness over the last 2 years have included
1. "Teaching" Weitering to play forward when he is a defender
2. Refusing to play Curnow as a mid, especially now that we have Mckay and McGovern. In fact, there is more hypocracy there. If the argument is about lack of forwards dictating his decison to play Curnow in F50, the counterargument could be that we have a lack of big bodied mids, yet he still threw the kids into the cauldron this year
3. This stupid theory that Ed Curnow is a HF when he is so desperately needed in the guts
4. Having 2 slow HBs in Daisy and SImmo when that defence is slow enough already (Daisy would make a great F50 captain/general)
5. From all accounts, Jack was being groomed for a mid role this year, yet he persists with him a HF
6. The 'teaching' of Garlett to play HB
7. His hypocritical stance on some players at senior level being gifted games
8. The 'teaching' of Gibbons to play HF when he is a ball winner
9. His zoning disaster of 2018

I'm not calling for his head...he seems to be doing a good enough job of that without my help. I still believe the door is ajar on his coaching career beyond this year. If he cannot win one of the next two, the door will be closed.
If he cannot win at least 5 for the year, the door will be locked

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 Post subject: Re: Misery Guts Thread
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:46 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
AGRO wrote:
Rocky Henderson wrote:
I was in the sugar coaters corner until the loss to St.kilda.
Bolton’s skating on some very thin ice at the moment.
I believe he’s 99% out the door at this stage.
We have a spine to work with minus a ruck.
We’ve lost too many winnable games this year.
We need a big bodied mid to protect Cripps and share the load otherwise it’ll be Judd all over again



This is SOS’s fault not Bolton’s.


Not really.

Charlie Curnow was recruited as a big bodied mid.
Everyone has fallen in lovewith Charlie as a forward and some even suggest we keep him out of the midfield to avoid injury.
It's footy FFS.



Charlie played TAC as a forward. He had a couple of runs on ball but that was it.
I don't understand the push to play him on ball. Firstly, he hasn't shown an ability to win the ball when he plays there and secondly, he's our best and most versatile forward IMHO.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:42 pm 
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Could be a double win for us if We lose Bolts and they keep the Chemist.
Hey I'm a glass half full sort.

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Destined to be perennial cellar dwellars. We are [REDACTED]. Permanently.

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Is it too late for us to be moved to Gold Coast?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:53 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
AGRO wrote:
Rocky Henderson wrote:
I was in the sugar coaters corner until the loss to St.kilda.
Bolton’s skating on some very thin ice at the moment.
I believe he’s 99% out the door at this stage.
We have a spine to work with minus a ruck.
We’ve lost too many winnable games this year.
We need a big bodied mid to protect Cripps and share the load otherwise it’ll be Judd all over again



This is SOS’s fault not Bolton’s.


Not really.

Charlie Curnow was recruited as a big bodied mid.
Everyone has fallen in lovewith Charlie as a forward and some even suggest we keep him out of the midfield to avoid injury.
It's footy FFS.

Then there's Jack who volved as a good big bodied mid in the VFL and was welcomed back to the seniors to play anywhere but...
Jack was in the top 5 runners during the preseason.

SOS got Kennedy from GWS as a big bodied mid. Bombers and Hawks we in the market for him at the time, and SOS won that.
No one knew he was going to injure his ankle in round 1 last year and carry that injury for the year.
Kennedy has failed to show hy he was worth trading for.

SOS was also after Steele and Hopman. Wish we got Hopman, and still do.

Setterfield was the most recent acquisiton. Its his first year post ACL, let alone having played less than 10 games of AFL, so we shouldn't be expecting too much from him this year

Nah, SOS has delivered, and it is the MC and coaches decisions to play Cripps with Fisher, SPS or Dow by his side, feeding from him.

The MC and coach have choices, but they choose to leave it all to Cripps to feed the ball out.
That's putting all your eggs in one basket IMO.



No really.


SOS has delivered- you’re delusional.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:22 pm 
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Bondi, I agree with your comments asking why we haven't played Charlie on the ball. Especially when we were playing too many tall forwards. Also cannot fathom why we persist with trying to make Ed Curnow a small defensive forward when he is one of the best run-with on-ballers. Ed has been kept on the forward line in games where opposition mids were running amok. Both Curnows on the ball would provide the strong body support that Cripps needs.

We seem to only make strategy decisions out of desperation. An example is playing Casboult as a key back. This was suggested preseason but only came about when we ran out of key backmen after the Jones injury. When Liam returns. I think it still worth persisting with Casboult as the 2nd key back, freeing up Weitering and Marchbank who are good intercept players.

Another comment on Charlie.... last year he was close to our best player. This year not so prolific - so why keep him deep on the forward line for long periods in a game when we are not getting the ball past centre. He probably had those few average games because he was getting frostbite down forward without the ball coming near him.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:23 pm 
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AIRCAV wrote:
Is it too late for us to be moved to Gold Coast?



The AFL want us in Hobart. After a merger with the Northern Blues, and allow priority access to two mature age state league players from Tasmania for two years.


Where do i sign.


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