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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:20 pm 
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Good around the ground. We can't play two rucks with 3 tall forwards.


spot on Jim. It really is basic stuff. We can't select a side that is that tall and cumbersome like last week. We lost that game at the selection table!
Too bad for Harry really - he will just have to provide a chop out for the 10-20% of game time as needed. We still need to bolster the midfield. Hopefully Kennedy, Silvagni and Cuningham are available and selected.


what changes would you have made?


I wouldn't play Harry anywhere near the ruck.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:35 pm 
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funny thing is I thought Harry's best 2 games this year were the first two - when he was proving a chop out.

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robertbb wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
marciblues wrote:
jim wrote:
Good around the ground. We can't play two rucks with 3 tall forwards.


spot on Jim. It really is basic stuff. We can't select a side that is that tall and cumbersome like last week. We lost that game at the selection table!
Too bad for Harry really - he will just have to provide a chop out for the 10-20% of game time as needed. We still need to bolster the midfield. Hopefully Kennedy, Silvagni and Cuningham are available and selected.


what changes would you have made?


I wouldn't play Harry anywhere near the ruck.


Who's the second ruck?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:38 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
robertbb wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
marciblues wrote:
jim wrote:
Good around the ground. We can't play two rucks with 3 tall forwards.


spot on Jim. It really is basic stuff. We can't select a side that is that tall and cumbersome like last week. We lost that game at the selection table!
Too bad for Harry really - he will just have to provide a chop out for the 10-20% of game time as needed. We still need to bolster the midfield. Hopefully Kennedy, Silvagni and Cuningham are available and selected.


what changes would you have made?


I wouldn't play Harry anywhere near the ruck.


Who's the second ruck?

Does it really matter ? ...

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Tony Moclair has our measure. TC mentioned on the Two Tones podcast as being full of bitter middle aged men. :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:57 pm 
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We didn’t lose the game at the selection table. We just didn’t play to our strength. Lost our structure in the forward line and delivered into the f50 was even worse than structure. Devastating loss.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:14 pm 
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Tony Moclair has our measure. TC mentioned on the Two Tones podcast as being full of bitter middle aged men. :lol: :lol:


Tony’s an old friend of mine

We had that conversation last time I saw him.

I might be his prototype... :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:18 pm 
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Playing Casboult to permit Harry to avoid being ruck relief is poor team selection strategy. Perhaps you could justify it if we only had 2 forward KP's but to do so when we have Harry, Charlie and McGovern all playing and Lobbe in the ruck leaves us too tall and slow. Especially when the team is clearly bereft of effective smalls playing in the forward line that can respond to the spillages and/or lock it in the forward line when the ball hits the ground

Of greater benefit is to have another option in the middle and allow us to bat deeper there. Compete more and for longer in the midfield.

I'm not saying selection was the sole contributor to our loss but it was a sh!t start


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Hi Tony! *waves*

Loved your work on Crud.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:20 pm 
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verbs wrote:
Tony Moclair has our measure. TC mentioned on the Two Tones podcast as being full of bitter middle aged men. :lol: :lol:


I don't think he gets enough sleep...


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:27 pm 
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marciblues wrote:
Playing Casboult to permit Harry to avoid being ruck relief is poor team selection strategy. Perhaps you could justify it if we only had 2 forward KP's but to do so when we have Harry, Charlie and McGovern all playing and Lobbe in the ruck leaves us too tall and slow. Especially when the team is clearly bereft of effective smalls playing in the forward line that can respond to the spillages and/or lock it in the forward line when the ball hits the ground

Of greater benefit is to have another option in the middle and allow us to bat deeper there. Compete more and for longer in the midfield.

I'm not saying selection was the sole contributor to our loss but it was a sh!t start


The forward setup was a cluster!@#$

The positive is we should never see anything like that again.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:33 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
robertbb wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
marciblues wrote:

spot on Jim. It really is basic stuff. We can't select a side that is that tall and cumbersome like last week. We lost that game at the selection table!
Too bad for Harry really - he will just have to provide a chop out for the 10-20% of game time as needed. We still need to bolster the midfield. Hopefully Kennedy, Silvagni and Cuningham are available and selected.


what changes would you have made?


I wouldn't play Harry anywhere near the ruck.


Who's the second ruck?

Does it really matter ? ...


Yes. If posters are going to can the MC for player selections, their views are hollow if they cant come up with credible alternatives.

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I have some credible alternatives - but Silvagni didn’t recruit them.

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marciblues wrote:
jim wrote:
Good around the ground. We can't play two rucks with 3 tall forwards.


spot on Jim. It really is basic stuff. We can't select a side that is that tall and cumbersome like last week. We lost that game at the selection table!
Too bad for Harry really - he will just have to provide a chop out for the 10-20% of game time as needed. We still need to bolster the midfield. Hopefully Kennedy, Silvagni and Cuningham are available and selected.

And if McGovern had been standing on the goal line with ten seconds to go, we would have won.
Then we would have won that game at the selection table.
We lost the game because the forward setup of three talls didn't work.
It didn't work because they weren't in the forward line when we needed them to be.
Three talls would work if they were in the forward line when the midfielders had the footy on the wing but as one in particular damning bit of footage shows from last week, we had the ball outside fifty and Harry was sprinting with his back to the footy, away from the ball carrier back to where he should have been.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:48 am 
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We didn’t lose the game at the selection table. We just didn’t play to our strength. Lost our structure in the forward line and delivered into the f50 was even worse than structure. Devastating loss.


That's reality Surrey. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:49 am 
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I have some credible alternatives - but Silvagni didn’t recruit them.


Who?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:52 am 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
marciblues wrote:
jim wrote:
Good around the ground. We can't play two rucks with 3 tall forwards.


spot on Jim. It really is basic stuff. We can't select a side that is that tall and cumbersome like last week. We lost that game at the selection table!
Too bad for Harry really - he will just have to provide a chop out for the 10-20% of game time as needed. We still need to bolster the midfield. Hopefully Kennedy, Silvagni and Cuningham are available and selected.

And if McGovern had been standing on the goal line with ten seconds to go, we would have won.
Then we would have won that game at the selection table.
We lost the game because the forward setup of three talls didn't work.
It didn't work because they weren't in the forward line when we needed them to be.
Three talls would work if they were in the forward line when the midfielders had the footy on the wing but as one in particular damning bit of footage shows from last week, we had the ball outside fifty and Harry was sprinting with his back to the footy, away from the ball carrier back to where he should have been.


That is one of my gripes with my talented 11 yo.

Ive been telling him for years, and will continue to till the penny drops.

Make yourself an option. You can't do that if you don't look to where the ball is coming from or it will hit you in the back of the head.

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verbs wrote:
Tony Moclair has our measure. TC mentioned on the Two Tones podcast as being full of bitter middle aged men. :lol: :lol:

Not talking about me.
I'm well past middle age.

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Blue Sombrero wrote:
verbs wrote:
Tony Moclair has our measure. TC mentioned on the Two Tones podcast as being full of bitter middle aged men. :lol: :lol:

Not talking about me.
I'm well past middle age.


And I’m not bitter. (Twisted maybe, but not bitter :thumbsup: )

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