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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:40 pm 
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Isn’t part of the criteria for bad tackle when player is lifted off ground - he wasn’t


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:42 pm 
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The idiot Christian needs to stop determining penalties on the outcome and revert back to the action.

Accidentally concuss someone 2 weeks

Deliberately elbow someone in the head off the ball but its only a minor graze and no concussion , play on.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:03 pm 
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The MRP (Match review Peanut) is doing what he is instructed to do and in this situation he is right.
Concussion is the most serious medical issue facing the league.
It was a dangerous tackle. He pinned the arms and drove him into the ground. Setters has to accept the consequences of that.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:06 pm 
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Charlie Curnow improved to 4 tackles.
McKay, Gov and Levi 0 tackles
Gibbons 1 tackle.

Our forwards cannot be accused of exerting too much pressure

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:33 pm 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
The MRP (Match review Peanut) is doing what he is instructed to do and in this situation he is right.
Concussion is the most serious medical issue facing the league.
It was a dangerous tackle. He pinned the arms and drove him into the ground. Setters has to accept the consequences of that.


He did not pin the arms

You can clearly see on the footage the arm holding the ball was not pinned.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:34 pm 
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..and i dont want to hear anyone on this site whinge about weak tackles from our players ever again.

Because that is clearly what is being advocated here.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:50 pm 
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He had one arm locked into the tackle. Needed to take more care taking him to the ground. I thought a week would've been fair.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:53 pm 
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One arm - correct , so the gold coast player could have braced his fall as well?

Or we just don't tackle any arms now? and then whinge when the opposition bust through or handball away with ease.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:55 pm 
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It may be an overcorrection but the players know what to expect.

The left arm that was free couldn't have possibly been used to brace the fall. Firstly, he was holding the ball and isn't allowed to just drop it. Secondly, he was slammed into the ground onto his R side. His left arm couldn't have taken the impact.

It isn't known how many concussions are safe. It could be that one causes permanent damage.
This is definitely an area that the AFL needs to be overly cautious in.

Danger would have got one or a warning though.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:58 pm 
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Just have to be more careful taking them to the ground.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:01 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Just have to be more careful taking them to the ground.


This just made me think of this as a defence statement.

Maybe he should've just laid him down gently and pulled his blankey up for him.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:27 pm 
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I never discriminate about the sex of an umpire - and when they’re shit they’re shit, make or female.


Was the female umpire Eleni Gliouftis? There was a game last year where she gave us an armchair ride.



Don’t recall who was responsible for Jones non-call of a mark - but that was clearly a wrong decision

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I never discriminate about the sex of an umpire - and when they’re shit they’re shit, make or female.


Was the female umpire Eleni Gliouftis? There was a game last year where she gave us an armchair ride.



Don’t recall who was responsible for Jones non-call of a mark - but that was clearly a wrong decision


Jones non mark was one of the worst non decisions I’ve ever seen. It was just so bloody clear


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:40 am 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
The MRP (Match review Peanut) is doing what he is instructed to do and in this situation he is right.
Concussion is the most serious medical issue facing the league.
It was a dangerous tackle. He pinned the arms and drove him into the ground. Setters has to accept the consequences of that.

One action, tackle and go to ground.
That's not what the sling tackle was defined as. it was defined as two actions, the tackle and then the sling to the ground. Setterfield's tackle was not that.
Reckless? He didn't have time to decide what to do. It was instinctive.
I reckon he was stiff.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:52 am 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
buzzaaaah wrote:
The MRP (Match review Peanut) is doing what he is instructed to do and in this situation he is right.
Concussion is the most serious medical issue facing the league.
It was a dangerous tackle. He pinned the arms and drove him into the ground. Setters has to accept the consequences of that.

One action, tackle and go to ground.
That's not what the sling tackle was defined as. it was defined as two actions, the tackle and then the sling to the ground. Setterfield's tackle was not that.
Reckless? He didn't have time to decide what to do. It was instinctive.
I reckon he was stiff.


I quite often wonder if we need to adjust the in the back rule as players are trained in making sure that you turn the player as you go to ground so as not to land in their back, however this is what is causing the tackled player to land shoulder first and the whipping motion of their head has lead to many, many concussions and I would argue is the leading cause for concussion.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:38 am 
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One arm - correct , so the gold coast player could have braced his fall as well?

Or we just don't tackle any arms now? and then whinge when the opposition bust through or handball away with ease.


One week for the “dangerous” tackle plus one week for the “terrible vision” ie GC player after getting back up to his feet stumbling and then falling to ground.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:38 am 
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I'd rather see players being suspended for the occasional overzealous tackle than seeing them limply hold out their arm when blokes try to run past them, as in previous years.

Setters' intent was fine, but the result was "a bad look". I do agree that in a perfect world the first part is the most important, but it's not the way the game is today.

In any case, Setters hasn't looked 100% for the past few weeks, so the break could do him good.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:20 pm 
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I wonder whether he does need a rest and that played a part in the decision not to challenge. Still think he was stiff to get two weeks.


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I watched (most of) the replay last night - turned it off when Dow missed a leading (and at the time red hot) Gov in the third - where the kick was maybe 15-20 meters and he missed him by 10.

I watched Charlie drop marks that should be taken, handballs not going to players advantage (Under 8s coach ringing in my ears - "Pass to where they will be... not to where they are!") and all kinds of small fumbles which tick the clock over.

We fix these skill errors and we start winning games.

And I think we can fix them. Confidence is key!

I am out of my doldrums.. new week, new opponent, new chance at a win!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:06 pm 
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i was at the game and all i saw was long bomb into forward line and like the last few years we dont mark it and the opposition with numbers and speed take the ball and run it out with serious of handballs and delivery . Bolts has to change this under 12 game plan.


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