It wasn't that it was so bad, it was that he's just not up to the level to make an impact on the game and we have enough passengers in the team already. I guess it just comes down to a different opinion.

Can happen to a club when you have been extremely bad for 17 years. Worst club in the 21st century and will continue being bad for a while yet.

No doubt it has taken a mental toll on our players. Lack of belief can destroy a side.

Need a circuit breaker to change our course as it looks being another long year.

cant we just tell the club you win by kicking a higher score than the team you are playing?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

That would be a start.


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First rule of football-to win matches you need a winning ruck combination....
hence why Carlton in the 80s/90s had Madden, Allen etc.

So fast forward to now in the Kreuzer era -
they've tried both Phillips and Lobbe, both have proven sub-standard, with Phillips looking to have the most upside.
Then they'll rely on the half-fit Kreuzer for the rest of the season once he comes back. He might even break even every so often.

Then perhaps you could try bean pole DeKoning in there. He's a youngster, needs more time etc etc...His record is also needing more anyway -2 games - 11 possessions and 5 possessions.

I guess they have no other option than to keep Casboult in the team for rucking, which is depressing in itself. Back to the same well over and over again.

I agree, I'm not sure if the OPs were at the game, but Levi did a reasonable job, imposing himself on the pack, bringing the ball to ground, something that Harry can't do yet.

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There was a 5 minute period in the last quarter where you could have sworn Levi was Ablett Buddy and Carey all rolled into one.
Then the moment of truth the set shot at goal. Of course he missed and never got near it after that

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Absolutely. Levi played his role well yesterday. He crashed packs, created ground balls and worked hard up the ground.

People need to remember we had our 4th choice ruckman out there yesterday. Lobbe had 2 possessions at half time and they were both free kicks. He was very poor. Our midfielders were starting from a losing position at most stoppages.
A very average ruckman in Sinclair killed us. Levi was the only one willing to put physical pressure on him.

Yes it's shit losing and as much as I have lost some interest in going, my daughter is still keen so I'm happy that it's something we share together.
Dow lacks composure but I love his burst from the stoppages. That composure will come. Walsh is a star already and it was good to see him in centre bounces yesterday.
We just lack depth still. With Curnow and Cunners missing up forward, we're well short on talent there. A forward line of Charlie, Harry, McGovern, Murphy, Cuningham and possibly Pickett will kick scores but we need to get them on the field.
The backline is looking good at the moment and I loved Jones's game yesterday.
18 inside 50's to 5 in the last quarter was exciting yesterday but we had no one left to kick goals once Harry was double teamed.

We haven't won yet but I'm still positive. We're well in games, our percentage reflects that and I love watching some off our kids. I'll keep going. Plus I get to see some good people from TC at the footy as well which is a bonus.

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He missed it. Just. It was a shame.
McKay missed three (2 easier than Bolts)
Cripps missed a set shot
Gov missed a set shot (similar angle and distance to Bolts)

So you can’t say Levi was no good becuase of that one miss.

From my angle I (and half the stadium) thought it was a goal and was outta my seat going crazy until I realised it was a point

Kerr could've done just as good a job as ruck relief. I'd have given him an opportunity before Levi.

Far too much is made of this point, it is just media crap, regurgitated by the disaffected.

None of the players have endured the years of losses or poor performances that are continually referred to by supporters.

These are competitive athletes with a desire to succeed, that's what has got them to this level.


Most come from successful programs and winning environments. To suggest they don't know how to win shows a complete lack of insight.

The output isn't delivering wins at the moment, but anyone with a balanced view can see the improvement from previous years.

We are all passionate and committed supporters, that's why we post on here. Personally I think Bolton will deliver success. If he doesn't he'll be appropriately held to account at the right time, but whatever happens our list will be in a much better plac than 4 years ago.

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OR, does the club have mindfulness programs or meditation? Who looks after their mental health?

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Kane Cornes

Hey Duke,

The club has a variety of wellness programs for the players, the mental wellbeing of each player is of paramount importance as much as their physical development and health.

The club may need to extend the wellness programs to a few supporters if it can't speed up the onfield results!!!!

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Thanks - I'm seeing someone and have been since 2002. It's not helping, just so you know.

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Reckon you can tell them you'll no longer need their support in 12 months time!

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Great to see you there yesterday BV. My first game in around a year after being..... er...... otherwise indisposed.

Three highlights:

1.Cripps carrying an opponent on his back for about 5 metres;
2. Running in to BV at half time.
3. Grandsons enjoying a day at the footy.

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