Talking Carlton Index Lochie O'Brien Madeline Keryk Lochie O'Brien Madeline Keryk CFC Home CFC Membership CFC Shop CFC Fixture Blueseum
It is currently Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:41 am

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 129 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:18 pm 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:00 pm
Posts: 20735
Location: Kaloyasena
bondiblue wrote:
AGRO wrote:
No I really think this will be the year of a Key Position Player for the Rising Star - everybody knows that it’s much harder to play Key Position as a young player.


Especially when Carlton has a gun junior mid-fielder.

:roll:


The old Cripps vs Hogan debate. What a huge mistake that was.
Like you AGRO, I don't think it was a mistake: pure sabotage of the Award.
Just about every non Demons fan I ask says Cripps was robbed.
When was the last time you saw a replay of the Krakouer mark on replay.
We all see a replay of walkers mark a few times a year when the greatest marks of all time are highlighted.

Ditto mark of the year Walker vs Krakouer where the whole world sees the 2 and selects Walker without blinking, yet Bartlett wanted to create controversy to get fans calling him on SEN.

Don't get me started with Diesel and the '93 Brownlow and the 2000 robbery of Kouta.

Bluebaggers will have their day in the sun.



Then the media wankfest couldn’t wait to give the Rising Star to McGrath of Essendon* and tell us with a straight face how hard it is for a young player to play a mid field role.

:roll:

_________________
I BELIEVE we need to invest in more concrete and spend less on wallpaper


"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill



Too much Sugar and too much Bleach is very very boring.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:34 pm 
Offline
Ken Hunter

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 am
Posts: 11367
Location: Bondi Beach
AGRO wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
AGRO wrote:
No I really think this will be the year of a Key Position Player for the Rising Star - everybody knows that it’s much harder to play Key Position as a young player.


Especially when Carlton has a gun junior mid-fielder.

:roll:


The old Cripps vs Hogan debate. What a huge mistake that was.
Like you AGRO, I don't think it was a mistake: pure sabotage of the Award.
Just about every non Demons fan I ask says Cripps was robbed.
When was the last time you saw a replay of the Krakouer mark on replay.
We all see a replay of walkers mark a few times a year when the greatest marks of all time are highlighted.

Ditto mark of the year Walker vs Krakouer where the whole world sees the 2 and selects Walker without blinking, yet Bartlett wanted to create controversy to get fans calling him on SEN.

Don't get me started with Diesel and the '93 Brownlow and the 2000 robbery of Kouta.

Bluebaggers will have their day in the sun.



Then the media wankfest couldn’t wait to give the Rising Star to McGrath of Essendon** and tell us with a straight face how hard it is for a young player to play a mid field role.

:roll:


FMD AGRO, did you have to remind me.

Can't believe McGrath won a Rising star...and then consider Cripps vs McGrath....and Hogan....put together.
Its [REDACTED], isn't it!

_________________
I hope the 17th Flag is won this decade


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:26 pm 
Offline
Rod Ashman
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:40 pm
Posts: 2891
Yep,i was there,and for mine,very deflating.Reckon it was more of the same.Murdered around the packs.Hawks had a heap of newbies and they knew what they were doing.Say what you will about Clarkson,but the guy knows his onions.Very cohesive outfit the Hawks.................................despite walking out of the ground with my bottom lip dragging on the ground i feel we have great scope for improvement.At last we are getting real talent on our list and its just a matter of getting them on the same page.Reckon we could go either way this year.If we can sort out our work around stoppages we could be a sneaky chance for the eight.If not,we are in for another long year.I still say we have a good backline and good forward line.Its just a matter of getting more ( a lot more ) out of our onballers.

Regards Mick.

PS.................i did have a very touching moment yesterday.I was walking out of the ground yesterday with my two sons ( who are grown up with families of there own ) my eldest hugged me,kissed me on the top of my head and said,Dad,that was great,just like when we were little kids...........and you wonder why i love Princes Park so much and want it back as our home ground.So many fantastic memories.......dont tell me we couldn't get a couple of games back there.Surely despite various obstacles it couldn't be done.Our Prez and CEO would be derelict in there duty if they are not working feverishly in the background not to achieve this.

_________________
All my dangerous friends


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:29 pm 
Offline
Stephen Kernahan
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:31 am
Posts: 17123
AGRO wrote:
Then the media wankfest couldn’t wait to give the Rising Star to McGrath of Essendon** and tell us with a straight face how hard it is for a young player to play a mid field role. :roll:


Even harder when he was back pocket all year. What a special player. Best young midfielder to never play midfield

_________________
T E A M


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:35 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:37 pm
Posts: 1824
It was a 4.5 out of 10 for mine.

I felt the score flattered us as the last few goals we kicked were junk time.

We were belted out of the middle and particularly in the ruck. Hawks mids waltzed out of the middle with no pressure at times and moved the ball in space as they pleased for the most part.

We did have our moments and had glimpses of looking like a well drilled team. It was exciting to watch our tall forwards as well as Jones marking in defense. Walsh was also a highlight and SPS had moments of class.

Unfortunately it didn't happen often enough and I was expecting to have better display of skill. It's just a practice game so I won't worry. I just wonder why the Hawks looked semi well drilled at the least and we looked a class below?

_________________
Koperek.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:38 pm 
Offline
Adrian Gallagher

Joined: Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:32 pm
Posts: 66
Questions for those who were there - how much of our clearance struggles were due to not playing any true ruckman? And who rucked for the Hawks? And a general one, I know Kreuzer had the knee surgery but what's up with Phillips and Lobbe, I would have thought at least one of them would have got a run.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:46 pm 
Offline
Trevor Keogh

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:23 pm
Posts: 725
My thoughts:

NOTABLE POSITIVES

Sam Walsh - not quite Andrew Walker quality first game, but not far off it. Cant wait for Round 1 vs Richmond on big stage. Poise, speed, matrix...

SPS - impressive game through midfield. Has clearly got his fitness up to level required to give himself a chance to match it with the big boys, mid-field style

McKay - good game, mobile, strong, kicked well

Gibbins - probably in our best 22

Setterfield - worked himself into game nicely. Fingers crossed he stays fit and healthy, he'll be a gun for us if he does

De Konig - good game when he came on in 2nd half. I hope he plays more games this year than Casboult

Dow - solid game

Cunningham - solid game

Wietering - good game, but want to see more



NOTABLE NEGATIVES

Garlett - awful game, sorry but you just cannot get the ball 15-20 in a game & turn it over >50% of the time. In a praccey match, FFS !!! Cost us 3-4 goals in turnovers across half back. How is he going to go in a real match when pressure goes up 50% ??!!

Poulsen - not up to it. When you are that small, and you only get the pill 10x a game, your skills must be elite. Poulsen skills mediocre at best.

Casboult - OK in ruck, BUT, I don't recall him taking a mark in the game. When marking the ball is your ONLY strength, then seeya later

Jones - don't bother taking nice marks in back line if you're gonna turn it over most of the time. I'd rather you punch the ball to ground.

Daisy - tries hard, but just not good enough anymore. If he plays >10 games this season, we are in trouble

Kennedy - slow, very slow

Silvagni - seems to try, but F&*^, apart from occasionally doing something OK, he just seems to be in no mans land for far too much of the game

NOTABLE NOT MUCH TO COMMENT ON

Curnow bros

Simmo

Murphy

Mcgovern (did a couple of nice things)

Plowman

Newman


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:23 pm 
Offline
Wayne Johnston
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:55 pm
Posts: 8317
Location: Brisbane
lucablue wrote:
My thoughts:


Kennedy - slow, very slow

Silvagni - seems to try, but F&*^, apart from occasionally doing something OK, he just seems to be in no mans land for far too much of the game




These are worries indeed.

_________________
THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:27 pm 
Offline
Wayne Johnston
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:55 pm
Posts: 8317
Location: Brisbane
Mickstar wrote:

PS.................i did have a very touching moment yesterday.I was walking out of the ground yesterday with my two sons ( who are grown up with families of there own ) my eldest hugged me,kissed me on the top of my head and said,Dad,that was great,just like when we were little kids...........



:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

_________________
THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:01 pm 
Offline
John Nicholls
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:22 pm
Posts: 9531
Location: Beijing
bluedog wrote:
Mickstar wrote:

PS.................i did have a very touching moment yesterday.I was walking out of the ground yesterday with my two sons ( who are grown up with families of there own ) my eldest hugged me,kissed me on the top of my head and said,Dad,that was great,just like when we were little kids...........



:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



Nice one! :smile:

_________________
"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:23 pm 
Offline
Geoff Southby
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:57 pm
Posts: 5095
Location: Melbourne
You can read less into this game than you can into a JLT game, so that’s saying something

_________________
James Hird and Essendon* FC - #FOREVERDRUGCHEATS


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:16 am 
Offline
Robert Walls

Joined: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:43 pm
Posts: 3976
A ruckman, Cripps and Fish (who looked good from what I saw of the AFLX) would make a slight difference to our midfield !

Lack of crumbers and forward defensive pressure is one of our biggest deficiencies right now. The loss of Pickett is a blow and it seems Lebois won’t make it, so for now Cunners, Gibbons and (gulp) Polson would seem our best options ?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:42 am 
Online
Robert Walls

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:28 pm
Posts: 3243
MIL wrote:
A ruckman, Cripps and Fish (who looked good from what I saw of the AFLX) would make a slight difference to our midfield !

Lack of crumbers and forward defensive pressure is one of our biggest deficiencies right now. The loss of Pickett is a blow and it seems Lebois won’t make it, so for now Cunners, Gibbons and (gulp) Polson would seem our best options ?


Fasolo hopefully not far away - should play in our 2nd JLT match.

_________________
In SOS we trust


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:59 am 
Offline
Ken Hunter

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 am
Posts: 11367
Location: Bondi Beach
Mickstar wrote:

PS.................i did have a very touching moment yesterday.I was walking out of the ground yesterday with my two sons ( who are grown up with families of there own ) my eldest hugged me,kissed me on the top of my head and said,Dad,that was great,just like when we were little kids...........and you wonder why i love Princes Park so much and want it back as our home ground.So many fantastic memories.......dont tell me we couldn't get a couple of games back there.Surely despite various obstacles it couldn't be done.Our Prez and CEO would be derelict in there duty if they are not working feverishly in the background not to achieve this.


Beautiful

_________________
I hope the 17th Flag is won this decade


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:58 am 
Offline
Ken Hunter

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 am
Posts: 11367
Location: Bondi Beach
Humpers wrote:
MIL wrote:
A ruckman, Cripps and Fish (who looked good from what I saw of the AFLX) would make a slight difference to our midfield !

Lack of crumbers and forward defensive pressure is one of our biggest deficiencies right now. The loss of Pickett is a blow and it seems Lebois won’t make it, so for now Cunners, Gibbons and (gulp) Polson would seem our best options ?


Fasolo hopefully not far away - should play in our 2nd JLT match.


Fasolo would have to turn up the pressure.
We need more from him than a marking small forward.
If he kicks 3 goals a game, I'll be happy with that.

_________________
I hope the 17th Flag is won this decade


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:22 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:58 am
Posts: 1901
ferdinand wrote:
Questions for those who were there - how much of our clearance struggles were due to not playing any true ruckman? And who rucked for the Hawks? And a general one, I know Kreuzer had the knee surgery but what's up with Phillips and Lobbe, I would have thought at least one of them would have got a run.



The ruck is the main problem. They can’t keep relying on a half injured Kreuzer. Pick one out of Lobbe and Phillips and stick with them for a few weeks.

I don’t know if the coach understands the importance of the ruckman. Perhaps he prefers a hobbling Kreuzer over a fit ruckman? Casboult is not the answer in the ruck, how many times does he go back to that well?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:59 pm 
Offline
Serge Silvagni
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 10:49 am
Posts: 976
tap in 79 wrote:
ferdinand wrote:
Questions for those who were there - how much of our clearance struggles were due to not playing any true ruckman? And who rucked for the Hawks? And a general one, I know Kreuzer had the knee surgery but what's up with Phillips and Lobbe, I would have thought at least one of them would have got a run.



The ruck is the main problem. They can’t keep relying on a half injured Kreuzer. Pick one out of Lobbe and Phillips and stick with them for a few weeks.

I don’t know if the coach understands the importance of the ruckman. Perhaps he prefers a hobbling Kreuzer over a fit ruckman? Casboult is not the answer in the ruck, how many times does he go back to that well?


Agree with you, let’s go with Lobbie or Phillips and give Kreuzer time to rehabilitate develop an endurance level AFL standard. He’s not young so manage Matthew wisely or he’ll be gone end season. We can’t carry so many unproductive talls any longer.
Casboult and Jones are only temporary solutions they’ll be scrutinized and may be gone end year.

_________________
Go Blue Boys


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:23 pm 
Offline
Trevor Keogh
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:55 pm
Posts: 741
tap in 79 wrote:
ferdinand wrote:
Questions for those who were there - how much of our clearance struggles were due to not playing any true ruckman? And who rucked for the Hawks? And a general one, I know Kreuzer had the knee surgery but what's up with Phillips and Lobbe, I would have thought at least one of them would have got a run.



The ruck is the main problem. They can’t keep relying on a half injured Kreuzer. Pick one out of Lobbe and Phillips and stick with them for a few weeks.

I don’t know if the coach understands the importance of the ruckman. Perhaps he prefers a hobbling Kreuzer over a fit ruckman? Casboult is not the answer in the ruck, how many times does he go back to that well?


I think you will find this year will be different. Last year we had a lack of talls in the F50 and as a result we needed a ruck/forward. We now have an oversupply of talls in the F50 so we could afford to have a tap ruck like Phillips to play a sole rucking position if Kreuzer is injured. Not a coaching issue, rather a lack of cattle issue.

Clearance support for Crippa is what we still need, let's hope the kids develop and step it up this year and the new additions prove their worth.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:33 pm 
Offline
John Nicholls
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:08 pm
Posts: 9601
Location: Melbourne
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2018- ... uare-stars

With our two best from 2018 missing it makes it tough.

Baby steps. With Dow and Setterfield,when he is up to speed, things will be different.

Regards Cazzesman

_________________
Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:49 pm 
Offline
Trevor Keogh
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:55 pm
Posts: 741
:thumbsup:


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 129 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group