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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:37 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
TheBluesMuse wrote:
keogh wrote:
Add Fasolo as well
And don’t give us that crap he cost nothing
His career at AFL level is finished

SOS has recruited some young guns but posters are entitled
to express their views on the recruitment of some very
ordinary players from other AFL clubs


I'm going to chime in here, for what it's worth. Rookie Picks, Mature age recruits that cost nothing and very late draft picks are a supplementary and a bonus. If you pick up a mature age player for basically nothing you're obviously taking a chance because if you thought they were actually going to contribute to your best 22 in 3 - 4 years time they would have a market value and not find themselves either delisted or on the verge of it and therefore you'd need to trade for them with picks or players.

Since SOS we have been using all our currency, whether it be picks or players who still have value to trade into the draft and get as many first round picks as we can, we have also turned over and delisted several players. Because of the high player turn over and our desire to get high picks we have had to add players to our list that don't cost anything, basically to fill in the gaps. That's why Mature recruits with zero currency have been a go to for us not only for their experience and big bodies around the club but to fill up our list, we're not recruiting these players to be in our best 22 in 3-4 years time we're recruiting them out of necessity, of course it would be amazing if they turned out however we know the chances of that are very very slim.


This is a good post!! Unfortunately, we have selected badly with the mature age trades. It looks like Fasolo is also going to be a wasted pick.


Yep re Fasolo.

Great post Blues Muse :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 12:17 am 
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Kreuzer going down again highlights the need for a ruck.
If there is anything decent in the mid season draft, we should look at it as an option.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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Agree and one of Lobbe or Phillips should be encouraged to move on by May 27th.
Le Bois is another that’s never looked likely, very unlucky with injuries , but can’t get a sniff.
How long can we carry him.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:41 am 
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bmaurizio wrote:
Agree and one of Lobbe or Phillips should be encouraged to move on by May 27th.


With Kreuzer unable to see out games, Lobbe and Phillips are keepers IMO. Phillips is developing into a good ruckman IMO and Lobbe is good value in the VFL. He also provides great leadership to the 1st and 2nd year players.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 9:56 pm 
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If you believe the rumours on BF the WB are having a massive crack at one of our players (top 5).
No name was mentioned but if we don't start winning soon all of this young talent we have accumulated will leave.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 10:02 pm 
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So who and what position do we target in the mid season?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 10:16 pm 
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About a third of the season in who is on chopping block at the end of season Garlett Lang Casboult Lobbe anyone else


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:38 am 
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Murphy, Pickett, Fasolo, Kerr, Lebois.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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kezza wrote:
If you believe the rumours on BF the WB are having a massive crack at one of our players (top 5).
No name was mentioned but if we don't start winning soon all of this young talent we have accumulated will leave.

I notice that guy has been suspended already.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 12:21 pm 
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kezza wrote:
If you believe the rumours on BF the WB are having a massive crack at one of our players (top 5).
No name was mentioned but if we don't start winning soon all of this young talent we have accumulated will leave.


They’ll have to pay through the nose, everyone is contracted.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 12:39 pm 
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kezza wrote:
If you believe the rumours on BF the WB are having a massive crack at one of our players (top 5).
No name was mentioned but if we don't start winning soon all of this young talent we have accumulated will leave.

I notice that guy has been suspended already.

Setterfield?

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 12:40 pm 
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kezza wrote:
If you believe the rumours on BF the WB are having a massive crack at one of our players (top 5).
No name was mentioned but if we don't start winning soon all of this young talent we have accumulated will leave.


I thought everyone wants to leave us anyways?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 1:25 pm 
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So who and what position do we target in the mid season?


Good question.

Seems we need cover for small defenders, small forwards and ruck. And of course you can never have too many midfielders on a list, especially since often it will be a midfielder who gets converted either permanently or on an interim basis to play small forward or back.

The clubs generally seem to be looking to pick up younger types rather than more mature retreads, even though everyone who qualifies for the mid-season draft must have been through the system anyway. For example, today the AFL website highlighted 200 cm defender turned ruckman turned defender again Ben Kelly playing as an overager at Murray Bushrangers. Might be a longer term Liam Jones replacement, if that was what we were after. It doesn't seem to be being looked at much to replace an injured player for the short term, although that might change if one of the flag contenders was to lose someone for the rest of the season that they didn't have great cover for.

Small defenders
I am a big fan of Mason Blakey as a lockdown defender, but if we take the view we are more in need of a linebreaking small defender it would be hard to go past ex Swans academy member RYAN HEBRON now doing well at Werribee. Quick leftie and has versatility, really like his ball use and unlike other linebreaking defenders is also competitive one-on-one. Would not be at all unhappy to grab him.

Rucks
For a ready made ruck/forward COREY GAULT (26 yo 200cm 100kg Swan Districts) ex magpies looms as ready to go. There are a few big boys running around in the State leagues, one I like the look of is Jack Blair of North Adelaide a 26 yo who played rugby until he was 22 then gave AFL a go, played at Uni of Sydney and was trialled at the Swans a couple of years ago. Seems to have continued to develop and is a real man mountain at 206cm and 108kg (down from 112kg when he trialled at the Swans). Doesn't get a lot of possessions or hitouts but would give us a different type of ruckman to what we have on the list. Ex-Box Hill basketball convert MICHAEL KNOLL is almost as tall (205cm) and not skinny at 100kg and again has upside given not that long in the AFL code (1 yr Box Hill dev squad, 2 years Box Hill, now first year at SANFL club South Adelaide) and 25 years old. I'd probably look at GAULT if we want impact this year especially as he is in the same age range and has more capacity to play forward which might make him a Casboult replacement option if Kreuzer stands up.

Small forwards
Plenty of options here, including Northern's own Palmer, but the standouts seem to be ex-Cat Cory Gregson who seems over the foot problems that vexed him at Geelong and is still only 22 or the late-blooming Sam Lowson at Coburg who is 23 and has come up from the development league this year showing real defensive forward pressure to go with a real nose for a goal. LOWSON for mine if we go for a small forward

Mids
Northern's Frank Anderson has hit the ground running on a small sample size, Sam Fisher has been good at Northern for a larger sample size and would be my prefernce between the 2. Looking further afield JYE BOLTON continues to dominate the WAFL but is that bit older at 27 and for a flashier type MARLION PICKETT at the same age was running very hot earlier this year. Be happy to reward Fisher if we decide a mid is the priority

All up given no-one beats us to him I'd probably grab Gault as I think a back-up ruck who can also play forward an be an upgrade to Casboult would be pretty handy, next in line HEBRON pace and disposal can never be in too much supply.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:44 pm 
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Nice work Eeen...!


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 Post subject: List Management 2019
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Small forward would be my preference for mid season draft


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 Post subject: List Management 2019
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The club has to finish off the rebuild by moving on the last remnants of the dark years - Murphy Casboult Simpson...


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 Post subject: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:48 am 
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Mid season draft I’d get Mason Blakey


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 Post subject: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:00 am 
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Don’t we have two picks?

I’d be surprised if we couldn’t land Blakey with our 2nd in that case, so we’d be able to help ourselves to a small forward like Lowson and defender in Blakey. Two gaps filled.

Ruck still a concern though.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 1:07 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
So who and what position do we target in the mid season?

Mongrel
We have enough nice young chaps with talent
Whatever position, we need some mongrel
If there is one, get a deGoey type (within 3years he will be in top 5 in the comp IMO)
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 Post subject: List Management 2019
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I think we need a small rebounding defender and high possession midfielder to take some heat off the kids in the second half of the year.


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