Got towed out and helped onto a wave BY THE AFL right before that wave hit the comp in the form of compromised drafts and free agency.

Right place, right time, a few good calls but mostly good luck and a lot of help.

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Where 3.5 years into a rebuild
We should be better
Recruiting isn’t an exact science

I don’t know about other posters but I watch a lot of footy
McGovern in his previous 48 games with the Crows was a one trick pony
Looks awesome when going for a pack mark
Great hands
Accurate kick
But that’s it
If you watch footy at AFL level you need to have a few more tricks to warrant
a five year contract plus giving up potentially 3 quality picks
There have been games where he hasn’t laid one tackle
But you don’t need to be Nostradamus to be surprised by that if you watched his previous 48 games

Hey mate he may become a superstar and I will take back everything I said
At the moment the bank balance is in the negative

Great highlight reel, but disappears for much of games and seems to have a body made of cardboard

Which was the same in Adelaide

We know, you have stated that 6 times all ready.

Tell us again about SOS plz.

I nearly have it memorized.

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Yes we paid overs for McGovern, noting we did get a 2019 3rd rounder back in return. But he was probably worth a second rd pick plus a little extra - not quite as much as we paid for him.

He is exactly the type of player he was at Adelaide. 12 possies and 2 goals kind of player.

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Last time I checked, even Maths teachers should of completed Year 10 English back when they were in secondary school

As far as your opinions are concerned, you should of learnt the CTRL C CTRL V sequence in your computer class. You would of found that it would give you so many more hours a day to do other things

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

Should've...

I think he was being facetious

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No Guts, No Glory

I got 24% for the English...!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

That's unpossible.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Listen the art to good teaching is getting down to the kids level
Far more important than correct grammar
Anyway SOS s list management is pretty crap isnt it

But tell us about what you think about why where 4 out of 42
Is it Bolts
Is it SOS or Brodie
Is it Loguidice
Tell us what you think
Does the list manager have anything todo with us stinking up the big one

Sadly I am largely agreeing with you nowadays Keogh.

Club still thought SOS was some list management wizard, but his complete blindside to anyone who isn’t a top 20 pick or once was a highly rated junior has left our list in a still terrible state.

We have some good talent and the hit rate amongst the top 20 picks looks good, but we have barely anything else.

Throw in pending retirements in the next 1-2 years of Simpson, Murphy, daisy and Kreuze, it’s an almighty mess.

If we are both right does Loguidice vision on what the club will be in 2022
be realised
To achieve he will have to sack his mate
There lies the real problem the club has had all along

We’ve tried 3 (perhaps 4) of “rebuilds” since 2002, some rebuilds, were wallpapers covering the cracks, others were a a bit of polyfiller filling a crack or two, and now we’ve sent an engineer in, but unless the plans from the top were created by a quality architect then we’re probably not doing it right.

It all starts from the top (the board) if they don’t know what they’re doing then “we’re in a lotta trouble fella”.

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Winston Churchill

some of you guys are exhausting

why don't one of you have a proper look at the composition of the list and how much time the players have spent playing together before talking shit about things...

look at tomorrows game as an example

only 9 of the 22 will be going into the game having played together in the same side since 2016. Of the 9, 5 made their debuts for the club in 2016 and 4 of these were first year players.
we had a further 4 introduced into the team in 2017. 3 of these were first year players. in 2018 we added another 3 to tomorrows team. one of these guys was a first year player.
tomorrow we have 6 guys that have only started their careers in navy blue during 2019. 3 of them are first year players.

when you go through the 22 and also think about the continuity some of them have had (e.g. marchbank, kennedy, cunningham, mckay, lang, setterfield) since they played their first game for us, then is it any wonder winning is so freaking hard for them right now!

you get sick of hearing the bullshit about rebuilding for 4 years etc etc. if anyone actually bothered to break it down they'd realise that from a team perspective, this group is only just starting.

I’m fully aware of what we have done, but a lot of the reason no one is fit and we have no continuity of on bad list management.

We let Tuohy go as a way of getting Marchbank? Why? We already have a surplus of KPP defenders and hardly any good experienced players, yet we turf one of our best ones?

And Marchbank had injury issues at GWS and we make excuses how he’s had injuries since he’s come to us.

Kennedy injury issues at GWS, somehow still does now.

Pickett the same

Setterfield done an ACL, no proof he is up to it yet we give up 2nd round picks. Now make excuses he’s not right because of ACL.

Lang, injury issues at Geelong, same with us.

McGovern, the same.

You can’t just keep getting broken down injured players and make the excuse you have injuries, it’s like buying a car with issues and being surprised it doesn’t run properly!

Sure some may come good and get over their issues, but when 95% of your trading is relying on your fingers being crossed that they will come good fitness wise, that just bad list management.

Add to that we are horribly unbalanced with zero small forwards even attempted to be recruited since 2015 and lack of experienced midfield support for Cripps.

i think, for a little reminder and reflection we need only look at last nights results to see the reality of where we are at, and where othersides are at.

Whilst i am certainly not comparing us to richmond, i think age and demographic of the side they played last night is similair to our side we play every week, and up against a side that has alot of experience in the right positions i.e. nearly all their ball winners .. brown, higgins, cunnington, tarrant etc.. are senior leaders and their main possesion getters ... is it any surprise that they dominated against a young, developing, physically immature side?

not really an excuse for lack of effort etc.. and i think that is the biggest concern with bolton ... but sometimes i think we under estimate exactly what we are up against, week in week out.

I don't think we had much choice with Touhy.
Or Betts.
Or Henderson
Or Gibbs.
Or Grigg

We had a choice with Robbo,
Garlett
Kennedy
Holman
Gowers
Fev

What's done is done.
We are in the now trying to get some decent foundations laid for the future. We had to go to the dfraft and to do that, we had to trade.
Now we have to run with what we have, try to win a few games quickly so we can stop players like Cripps from going the way of Touhy.
Last week was a line in the sand game. We were pathetic and Cripps wasn't as obviously upset as he was against Collingwood and Hawks. I worry that after last week, their arses have dropped out and we will see a series of massacres for the rest of the season followed by an exodus of players as they get headhunted. Cashed up clubs have always picked the eyes out of the struggling clubs. We did it for years to everybody.
West Coast will want Cripps.
Geelong will want Charlie and or Walsh.
What happens if we just keep losing? We get lots of new players as compo or as a trade but we never escape the cycle.
It's about wins and losses from here, like it or not.
Cripps is a tough bastard and we might not be able to break his body but we might break his heart.

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