Stocker trade now looking like pick 3 for pick 9 + Stocker.
Even after our dismal start to the year and in a season where there are an unusual no of teams in the 8-10 win range, it still looks like a pretty good outcome, provided Stocker becomes a half decent player for us.

If cog's decides to leave GWS (he will be at the blues if he does leave) then it will be pick 3 for cogs & stoker.

Coniglio is a restricted free agent - hence the ridiculous sums being bandied about.

No trade.

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He'll cost us two first rounders.

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No, as a restricted free agent he won’t cost us draft picks at all.
I suspect we will however be looking to trade that pick for a Papley or Martin or the like

The Stocker trade will end up being pick 3 for Stocker and ‘Papley’...
In any event, I think the trade with Adelaide is not looking too bad after all.

Exactly.

All GWS have to do is match the offer, lets say $2M then work like hell to get fit him within the salary cap (players deciding to take less in 2020 and be compensated later).

This would force Carlton or Hawks to pay them what they want or negotiate players picks or both.

2 first rounders is what we have in our back pocket, so its doable. I could live with that.

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Nah. If they pay Coniglio $2m, they won't be keeping Kelly, Green etc for long. There will be plenty falling out of the tree.
If he can't come as a RFA, I wouldn't bother. Get Papley and Ellis.
With Doc hopefully returning next year and Marchbank, possibly Williamson, we can push Walsh and SPS into the midfield rotation and possibly Setterfield. Play others like Ellis and O'Brien on the wings. Papley was very good in the midfield for Sydney earlier in the year as well.
Put another pre-season into Walsh and SPS and they'll take another big step forward.

Coniglio is a gun but not worth selling the farm for.

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I tend to agree. I'd also steer clear of Ellis - we don't need him.

My priorities would be Jack Martin and Tom Papley.

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Sorry but if SOS misses on Coniglio after missing on Sheil last year then his position should come under serious question.

Agree, the donkeys are straight fwd. The big fish is another story!!

I disagree. Personally, I’m glad we’re no longer a club who puts all its eggs in one basket. I feel like we’ve finally moved on from the messiah complex.

If we get him, great, and I will be confident it will be on terms that favour us.

If we don’t, life definitely goes on - and it might turn out for the best in the long run.

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Setterfield was the primary target for us AND Essendon*. They only chased Shiel after they missed Setterfield.

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A Very simple answer! Life does go on, but life could be so much better$$

Good mail on that BV?

It surprises me that their preference was a talented but injury prone 2 gamer rather than a proven all Australian. Not saying they wouldn’t have been disappointed to miss setters, but surely Shiel was the big fish.

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When a player leaves a club he has 17 other clubs he can go to.

And any particular player may have all sorts of reasons for why they want to go to a particular club be it they supported them as a kid, they have friends there, whatever...

And then you also have to factor in whether or not you’re paying too much.

Shiel went for two @#$%&! first round picks!

If SOS had done that deal we would have strung him up!

Give the guy a @#$%&! break.

Is his record perfect?

No.

No-one’s is.

But he’s building a list that’s the envy of pretty much every opposition supporter I know and you want to question his position because he didn’t land one of two particular players?

FMD!

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Well stated

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SOS has had a lot of assets to use ... salary cap space, draft picks, Andrew Russell, future business networks ..more than most other clubs.

It's not unreasonable to expect him to land a big fish or two.

BTW, Setterfield came with last year’s pick for last year’s pick 71 for last year’s pick 43 and this year’s second rounder which looks like being around pick 21.

I’d do that again in a flash.

The kid has some serious tools and another ten years in front of him as against a guy who might have five or six years left.

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So what’s he doing wrong?

Surely if it’s that simple they’d be queueing up?

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Good questions.

Questions MLG and Liddle should be asking if Coniglio rejects us.