He is one player with strength and size to break tackles and more importantly make tackles too.

Soss last 2 drafts have been very poor

Some really stupid trades
Particularly last year
Was in panic mode
The quick fix was back and it’s set us back a couple
of years and Bolton is the scapegoat

The board never @#$%&! learns

If you're still going on about Stocker, it's too soon.
OK, we will probably finish 18th. W lose pick one. If we had have traded it for Stocker without any comeback, it is looking pretty 'stupid' to use your words.
However as it stands, we look to have traded #1 for Stocker and pick 9-11.
Stocker looks the goods. Let's say he would have gone at 9 anyway.
We have traded #1 for two picks around #10. Unless we (SOS and his team) cock up the Adelaide pick, I'd say we've done OK.
Finally, Adelaide is playing flukey footy at the momet. I havn't looked at their run home BUT they might yet finish 8-12. What if they finish 12 Possible) and we finish 16-17 (unlikely).
We get Stocker and pick 7-11.
I wouldn't b surprised if we didn't get a PP this year. They can't just keep pretending we are going OK.
EDIT:
People say it's our own fault but going just to the draft without trading back into it would have lasted forever. We HAD to do what we did.
Also, we have been unlucky inasmuch as the worst injuries we have had have been to our experienced players in Doc (even though he is still pretty young) Kreuzer, Murphy Thomas and now Jones and Simmo.
Touhy was going anyway. The insulting contract was only insulting because it was less than Geelong offered. Gibbs was different. We wanted/needed him out to trade for two first rounders or whatever it was. I wouldn't really be surprised if he asked to come back. Something weird is going on over there.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

We obtained pick 13 from Sydney
We could have used that pick to get Stocker and been more patient after the year we had in 2018
Also the later picks are a worry as well
O’Dwyer and Silvangib have shown nothing
You should show something at VFL level in your first year
And the new coach has them on the list next year
We could have used one of these 2 picks to get an experienced head like McVeigh
Instead we were more obsessed in flying Shiel around in a private jet
He was never coming to us
We went the early crow in trading picks and going after a big fish eat way too early
Instead we get Fasolo

Whether it was Silvagni alone or pressure from the board to do these trades
the fact is the club got ahead of itself and went the quick fix yet again

The trade that doesn’t look good is the Tuohy trade
Apparently the offer the Blues gave him was embarrassing
So off he goes to Geelong when his experience would have been invaluable
Smedts lasted one year
Pickett has done virtually nothing
Marchbank is just ok
That trade already looks like another one we have stuffed up

Remember Silvagni said that we would start to trade out picks for bigger bodies after 66 games
Well imo we should have revised that strategy after the year we had in 2018

:keogh:

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dane's trolling again

So you would be surprised if we did?

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Orandum est ut sit mens sana in corpore sano. Fortem posce animum mortis terrore carentem, qui spatium vitae extremum inter munera ponat naturae, qui ferre queat quoscumque labores.

Goodaye Verbs
As usual always constructive

Why should you be rewarded for being crap and making dumb decisions
McAdam and Kreuger who both may turn out ok were basically handed to us we
traded out anyway
Forget the PP
Don’t think it will happen

first we've heard from you on this topic. please, tell us more.

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"I had to eat"

No 1 picks, we've had plenty, and where are we ? 18th !

Good on SOS for being creative.

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The problem with Socialism is, you eventually run out of other people's money.

No player drafted in 60's+ has played in afl they are always speculative picks

We didn't draft any decent mature players as we are freeing up space in the cap so that we can lock in our quality kids for some time and leave enough cash to lure a FA

You complain about our picks, yet praise what could’ve been with blokes yet to play AFL? If McAdam and Krueger are that good, surely they would be playing?

Comments like these do you no credit Keogh.
Why the @#$%&! is Jarrad McVeigh going to come to us for a year when he can stay at Sydney under contract. The only way to obtain him is to offer a 2 or 3 year contract. Last time I looked, he is sitting on the sidelines for 8 weeks plus.
You would have squealed like a pig if we'd offered him a couple of years and he hardly got on the park.

I understand you're probably struggling for new things to complain about but you've pulled the wrong rein with this one.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

We wouldn't have got Stocker at 13 if someone else picked him up. We got him and pick 7-11 for #1. If he turns out ok, that's a good result, especially if we get another player with pick 11. Maybe we could trade it for one of your mature players. Marchbank is pretty good, really. Our best back six has NEVER played together.
Pickett should have done a lot more with his broken wrist and his knee, I agree. Playing one handed and one legged is the measure of a selection. Last year it was a revolving door. This year at least there is a bit of stability even though two of the six are missing.

It's all doom and gloom for you. Sure, it's gloomy at the moment but the list is actually pretty reasonable as I wrote elsewhere and if we can keep it together, we will be like the Giants when their players started coming on line. We can do that with the aid of a few experienced pickups this year.
Touhy was only insulted by our offer because Geelong offered him more. Once he went we wer forced to trade. Smedts was a bust for sure but there wasn't too much else on offer.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Yep. Get off the pick 1 teat. Glad we tried something different.

Looks like coming off.

Hopefully no early drafting for a year or two and use the picks for bringing in mature players.

Hopefully with Bolton gone we can bring in some seriously respected people that will help attract mature talent.

I'm glad we got Stocker with a different tact which got us 2 first rounders for our first rounder.

No one thought we'd end 18th and we yet we still may end up higher on the ladder.

The plan was always to target mature experienced bodies post 2018.

We all knew we would likely trade our 2019 and 2020 first rounders for experienced bodies, and target a FA or two.

It was obvious Bolton wasn't going to take us far this year, and the decision was made to make a change.

We land a good coach and we may land ourselves a better player than we were with Bolton at the helm.

I'm sick of the SOS bashing. The bashers have all their facts wrong and counting chickens before they hatch let alone rehashing media Carlton bashing which also is baseless.

A breath of fresh air comes to Carlton this week. Teague will let them loose and enjoy their footy.
We are not predictable this week. Thank god for that.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

silly verbs

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EFA...

Oops. Maybe I should have gone for the triple negative with pike.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

What have I done now?