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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:48 am 
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I keep rereading the lyrics of the Carlton Football Club anthem/song, and can't see a single thing which is racist.

Stephen Hagan, making the accusations is a racist against colour; in this instance Navy Blue. He wants attention. He's a narcissist.


I have done my bit and continue to do my bit for equality and equal opportunity for the indigenous community.
Last week I was on an indigenous led cruise to the Great Barrier Reef with 25 friends, which was a great day, because I always support the original people of our land.

Today I'm going to lunch with mates who helped me promote a mate of mine who is an 'elder' (25 years younger than me, mind you) who I recommended as a Board Member for a big company, which he gratefully accepted. I employ indigenous people. I have no problem with the Carlton FC song. The indigenous people I've spoken with about this silly request don't see a problem with it either, and can only see this backfire on him and the movement.

Football fans and supporters of teams are loyal to the bone. Don't poke the bear. Pick fights that are worth fighting for, and help the movement for equality.

Now, leave my Football club and its non racist song alone, or I will turn on anyone who follows the path of Stephen Hagan on this issue.

Don't buckle to Cancel culture let alone narcissists like this bloke.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:00 pm 
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He's not saying the lyrics to our song are racist. He's saying the lyrics of "Lily of Laguna" are racist. Because we use the tune from that song, he attributes racism.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:15 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
He's not saying the lyrics to our song are racist. He's saying the lyrics of "Lily of Laguna" are racist. Because we use the tune from that song, he attributes racism.


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I know that BV. :wink:

There's no words to the tune on its own. So its the words which are racist. Its all fixed now. Carlton fixed the problem by adopting the decent lyrics. Simple

The 2 girls who wrote the words for the Carlton FC song, decided to use the catchy tune and used decent words to describe and celebrate our team and its supporters.

Its a decent song. Period.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:16 pm 
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The Taliban have been blowing up/ defacing art because they don't suit their agenda.

Same.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:18 pm 
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Makes Stephen Hagan an extremist.

Don't give him oxygen.

He is dangerous.

Australian society is building bridges.
No need to create schisms.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:14 pm 
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Schism would be a great tune to use...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:44 pm 
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I never knew a tune could be racist. We are constantly breaking new ground in humanity.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:59 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
I never knew a tune could be racist. We are constantly breaking new ground in humanity.


Well a kids tv show called Bluey about a family of dogs is apparently not diverse enough either.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:32 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Schism would be a great tune to use...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:17 am 
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Just like African Americans have subverted the meaning of the N word and made it their own and something they can use proudly we’ve subverted the old tune and made it something we can all be proud of.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:29 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
Just like African Americans have subverted the meaning of the N word and made it their own and something they can use proudly we’ve subverted the old tune and made it something we can all be proud of.


Articulate. Deep. Nice one sinbagger

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:49 pm 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Schism would be a great tune to use...

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I know the pieces fit



Funnily enough this is how I often feel as a Carlton supporter:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:54 pm 
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Change it to “we surrender” and our colors to white

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:00 pm 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Schism would be a great tune to use...

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I know the pieces fit

Stinkfist I think

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:07 pm 
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Change it to “we surrender” and our colors to white

We could just make it Dixie then

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