As SOs said players mature at different rates
So how about finding some of those
Late bloomers from the other comps
Bush
Interstate
I much rather give someone a chance
For the first time than watch
Mullet
OShea
Shaw turn it over
Stewart could be All Australian this year
Kelly is a gun mid

I don't have a problem with O'Shea.
We went through the National draft, decided there was nothing left to take and gave the last spot on our list to O'Shea. He won the NB B&F by a landslide and I like the concept of giving a list spot to the outstanding performer in the VFL. That philosophy will be rewarded by players coming to the NB's looking for a pathway.
He was never meant to play AFL. He was experience for the youngsters in the 2's. No different to Aaron Mullett. He cost us nothing as a delisted free agent. We have enough kids, we need mature bodies around them to give strength to the Northern Blues.

Look at the Northern Blues this year. They would be easily the youngest team running around. Players like O'Shea, Mullet etc, they're there to provide depth and leadership. If it wasn't for injuries, they wouldn't be near our AFL team. The last 2 spots on the list are a small price to pay IMO.

SOS also whinged when he did the radio rounds a few weeks ago about no other list manager having to front up like he was.
Has a bit of a point but ... he’s an AFL champion orchestrating an unprecedented list rebuild at a former competition powerhouse where he made his name and, for a number of reasons, it seems to casual observers (and some keen observers) to be at risk of going pear shaped.
These guys need to be accountable. To supporters if no one else. There’s not much more Bolts can cliche, sorry, say ...
Good on SOS for fronting but he needs to suck it up and “if they are all in this together”, everyone should be coming out to keep selling the message. This bloke could well determine the future of the Love of football waning thread.
Great he was feisty and thought he handled himself fairly well but could have answered a few questions better. He’s not a natural but seems to have improved in front of the cameras. Being so openly and consistently questioned this year would be new territory for him. And he was ultra defensive. Maybe could have focused more of the positives and the “wins” of his list rebuild.
The pressure is going to be immense on every deal he does this trade period.
Had Caro lined up over the henchman stuff but everyone knows he wields more power than he will ever admit.
Was good telly.

SOS represented Carlton perfectly.

Since when does Carlton let the media dictate our agenda? Eddie doesn’t and would never allow the media to dictate the Pies agenda, why the @#$%&! should Carlton? Why should Caro & Lloyd be allowed to bully their way through our club unchallenged?

FFS even the Gold Coast president stands up for his club, right or wrong in an unwavering manner. The message it sends to players, members and those involved in the club is that publicly we support you.

There is a public message and a behind closed doors message - same theme, but delivered differently & for different purposes.

MLG & SOS are mates, so what.

They are both hard arsed high achievers and both want success. There’s ego’s etc but does anyone seriously think those involved at the club aren’t striving tirelessly for success?

Judd is a high achiever. He won’t allow his legacy to be tarnished by failure.

Behind closed doors there have been and continue to be serious, hard discussions and questioning of approach, performance and outcomes.

How many know the actual story behind Trigg’s departure? Easy to criticise from the cheap seats.

We have had more successes than busts in drafting / recruiting over the last 3 years. It is an imperfect multi faceted process.

SOS pointed out 5 trades where we have clearly come out well ahead. There are others where we have stuffed up, flower and shit stirrers focus on the stuff ups & ignore the successes.

He was at times defensive & aggressive, he was accurate. He’s not a media performer yet he performed well.

Lloyd’s comments at the end reinforced the commonly held view that he’s a cheap sniper.

Members have the right to question & seek answers but Caro & Lloyd don't have any right to peddle gossip & lies about our club. Blinkered cheap thinking needs to be called out for what it is & SOS did that.

On balance that interview was a win for Carlton.

OR

After tonight if anyone can't see what the plan was and still is, they will never get it, this is a marathon not a sprint .

The key point for me is:
"We are rebuilding to win a premiership, if we were rebuilding to come 8th we would already be there!"
CB
P.S. Also hinted they were close to resigning Cripps

SOS represented Carlton perfectly.

Since when does Carlton let the media dictate our agenda? Eddie doesn’t and would never allow the media to dictate the Pies agenda, why the @#$%&! should Carlton? Why should Caro & Lloyd be allowed to bully their way through our club unchallenged?

FFS even the Gold Coast president stands up for his club, right or wrong in an unwavering manner. The message it sends to players, members and those involved in the club is that publicly we support you.

There is a public message and a behind closed doors message - same theme, but delivered differently & for different purposes.

MLG & SOS are mates, so what.

They are both hard arsed high achievers and both want success. There’s ego’s etc but does anyone seriously think those involved at the club aren’t striving tirelessly for success?

Judd is a high achiever. He won’t allow his legacy to be tarnished by failure.

Behind closed doors there have been and continue to be serious, hard discussions and questioning of approach, performance and outcomes.

How many know the actual story behind Trigg’s departure? Easy to criticise from the cheap seats.

We have had more successes than busts in drafting / recruiting over the last 3 years. It is an imperfect multi faceted process.

SOS pointed out 5 trades where we have clearly come out well ahead. There are others where we have stuffed up, flower and shit stirrers focus on the stuff ups & ignore the successes.

He was at times defensive & aggressive, he was accurate. He’s not a media performer yet he performed well.

Lloyd’s comments at the end reinforced the commonly held view that he’s a cheap sniper.

Members have the right to question & seek answers but Caro & Lloyd don't have any right to peddle gossip & lies about our club. Blinkered cheap thinking needs to be called out for what it is & SOS did that.

On balance that interview was a win for Carlton.

OR

SOS represented Carlton perfectly.

Since when does Carlton let the media dictate our agenda? Eddie doesn’t and would never allow the media to dictate the Pies agenda, why the @#$%&! should Carlton? Why should Caro & Lloyd be allowed to bully their way through our club unchallenged?

FFS even the Gold Coast president stands up for his club, right or wrong in an unwavering manner. The message it sends to players, members and those involved in the club is that publicly we support you.

There is a public message and a behind closed doors message - same theme, but delivered differently & for different purposes.

MLG & SOS are mates, so what.

They are both hard arsed high achievers and both want success. There’s ego’s etc but does anyone seriously think those involved at the club aren’t striving tirelessly for success?

Judd is a high achiever. He won’t allow his legacy to be tarnished by failure.

Behind closed doors there have been and continue to be serious, hard discussions and questioning of approach, performance and outcomes.

How many know the actual story behind Trigg’s departure? Easy to criticise from the cheap seats.

We have had more successes than busts in drafting / recruiting over the last 3 years. It is an imperfect multi faceted process.

SOS pointed out 5 trades where we have clearly come out well ahead. There are others where we have stuffed up, flower and shit stirrers focus on the stuff ups & ignore the successes.

He was at times defensive & aggressive, he was accurate. He’s not a media performer yet he performed well.

Lloyd’s comments at the end reinforced the commonly held view that he’s a cheap sniper.

Members have the right to question & seek answers but Caro & Lloyd don't have any right to peddle gossip & lies about our club. Blinkered cheap thinking needs to be called out for what it is & SOS did that.

On balance that interview was a win for Carlton.

OR

As usual you missed my points
Just because you win the b and f means almost jack shit

If you can’t run and kick your a liability at AFL level
Clearly Stewart can and O’Shea Shaw can’t
Mullet is soft
Your narrow minded philosophy is the main reason this club
Has been shit for over 15 years
Maybe we should give Scarlo a call

Hey Keogh,

It takes a reasonable amount of effort to refute some of your stuff but here goes;

Stewart was taken with the Cats 2nd pick in the 2016 draft, in order for Carlton to select him we would have had to pass on the selection of Fisher. Would you have done that?

To recruit a player of his ability in 2017 the Blues would need to use a similar pick. We instead used our 2nd Rd pick on TDK. .

Cam O'Shea was selected by the Blues in the 2017 pre - season draft.

Aaron Mullett was selected by the Blues in 2017 as a delisted free agent.

To criticise the Blues recruitment of O'Shea & Mullet as compared to Cats recruitment of Stewart is ridiculous. Each of them cost the Blues minimum chips, not a 2nd round selection in the draft.

In the 2017 pre season draft who would you have selected other than O'Shea?

Amongst the 2017 delisted free agents who would you have selected on similar terms to Mullett?

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Fisher has been a great pickup
But I asked again to you and let’s see how you go here

Do we have anyone from the CFC overseeing the Geelong league in 2014 and beyond
Or
Goulburn
Or
Ovens and Murray
Tassie
Do we thoroughly look at what’s available in the other states

Surely there are at least a dozen blokes better that can
Run
Kick
Chase
Are better than OShea Mullett Shaw and another Four or five as well

You just don’t look passed your own navel
In this case what’s available at the previous club you were the recruiting
Officer and those players ripping it up in your shit reserves team
You look everywhere

Love the messiah complex...

Did you get the arse from the Blues as a country league recruitment scout at the end of 2014?

In answer to your question, yes the Blues do have that covered.

In addition, over the the last 6 months the former National Recruiting Manager from the Swans & the recruitment manager from the Hawks have been added to the other 5 permanent recruitment staff at the Blues.