I was thinking the kernahan “We are Carlton @#$%&! the rest” comment.

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SOS is a stubborn bloke
My beef with his recruiting is
1 too many blokes from GWS so arnt good enough
His argument there was we gave up little to get them.
As I said before I think
Kennedy
Plowman
Pickett
Are below average players who are ultimately list cloggers if you
Want a premiership squad so your basically treading water

2 recruiting so many ordinary senior players
A watch a bit of the WAFL over here and there are a
Many players who are far better running around that
Comp who are far better than O’Shea types
Not enough homework done by SOS’s team here

The injuries have exposed the flaws of these 2 factors
I don’t rate him as recruiter
Great TV though

Players in the wa league are playing against teams in the wa league. O'Shea is a prime example of that. Stand out at vfl level but struggles with the AFL. The league standard makes a huge difference. That's why is the best if the best in the afl

People will see what they want to see from that interview.

Those potting the club will see a bloke under pressure taking cheap shots and getting his back up.

Those wanting to stick by the current regime and see us show some balls to these cretins will see a bloke who stuck it up them and show them for the uninformed asses they are.

I’m well and truly in the latter group. Get around him!

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Is it just me or does SOS have a passing resemblance to Keanu Reeves?

Do you have a dog Keogh?

It sounds like SOS kicked it.

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SOS also whinged when he did the radio rounds a few weeks ago about no other list manager having to front up like he was.
Has a bit of a point but ... he’s an AFL champion orchestrating an unprecedented list rebuild at a former competition powerhouse where he made his name and, for a number of reasons, it seems to casual observers (and some keen observers) to be at risk of going pear shaped.
These guys need to be accountable. To supporters if no one else. There’s not much more Bolts can cliche, sorry, say ...
Good on SOS for fronting but he needs to suck it up and “if they are all in this together”, everyone should be coming out to keep selling the message. This bloke could well determine the future of the Love of football waning thread.
Great he was feisty and thought he handled himself fairly well but could have answered a few questions better. He’s not a natural but seems to have improved in front of the cameras. Being so openly and consistently questioned this year would be new territory for him. And he was ultra defensive. Maybe could have focused more of the positives and the “wins” of his list rebuild.
The pressure is going to be immense on every deal he does this trade period.
Had Caro lined up over the henchman stuff but everyone knows he wields more power than he will ever admit.
Was good telly.

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I just want my old club back.

When I see Stewart and Kelly running around
For Geelong it shits me
Does it shit you

I agree with his overall philosophy of the rebuild

My issue is not enough due diligence has been
Paid to find mature bodies from other comps
And his too many blokes from GWS a second chance

As I said before a very stubborn bloke

If he hadn’t played 312 games for Carlton more questions
Would be asked

Not at all. I see Charlie Curnow running around after Geelong traded their first round pick for Lachy Henderson. I see Patrick Cripps in a blue jumper after 12 clubs passed on him. I see last years All Australian Sam Docherty traded in for pick 33.
Every club has horror stories about the draft and trades. Every club. But since Silvagni took over, I think our strike rate is pretty good. We have bought in a heap of first round picks through the draft or trades. Those players were selected initially as first rounders because they had elite talent. Many we've paid under for them and it's up to the club to bring out their best.
As Silvagni said, every club only has so many picks. In 3 drafts, considering the turnover of the list, I think we've done very well.

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Problem is it’s like horse breeding.
You didn’t really know the results for a few years.
Early on they might trial well or as, Carlton does, race them as two-year-olds and see what they’ve got.
No guarantee they’ll back up as three and four year olds.
We suspected Hughes was no good; now we have his record to cry over.
Everyone thought Essendon* smashed the Gumby-Jetta draft. Look how that turned out.
But SOS seems to have picked more winners than hacks thus far.

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He said really some had been brought in for VFL to teach young 'uns, but injuries have meant they play in seniors. Hopefully those players knew what was expected of them when they signed on.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

there's two parts of SOS's job.

drafting & recruiting.

I think he's been excellent drafting - the best cfc has ever had, imo.

SOS's recruiting has been questionable. possibbly too much movement there? ridding the list of blokes like boek, buckley and replacing them with mullet and Oshea were mistakes. the latter two offer nothing, at least the former two offered some run and carry - an attribute our current list is well short of.

Of course your going to have wins
But why those spuds like Mullett Shaw
And OShea
All flanker types
What I learnt is MLG and SOS
Are mates
That concerns me
Jobs for the boys

You can see it from rose tinted glasses
About Cripps and Curnow
But your treading water in a rebuild
When you recruit mature spuds
Who bring nothing to the table
In a playing sense

As SOs said players mature at different rates
So how about finding some of those
Late bloomers from the other comps
Bush
Interstate
I much rather give someone a chance
For the first time than watch
Mullet
OShea
Shaw turn it over
Stewart could be All Australian this year
Kelly is a gun mid

Is this a @#$%&! poem? If so, it's quite good. If not - it's shite.

Nothing wrong with the messaging. We all know who those players are. They are all on one year contracts too. They would’ve been told what their role is within the team this year and had a choice whether to sign on.

Sarcasm

Since you know so much about recruiting
We obviously don’t have someone from recruiting
Watching GFL games
It’s a pretty good standard
Might be a few more Tom Stewart’s

Maybe Steve and Jo can make it weekender
With a night or two thrown at Lorne

I don't have a problem with O'Shea.
We went through the National draft, decided there was nothing left to take and gave the last spot on our list to O'Shea. He won the NB B&F by a landslide and I like the concept of giving a list spot to the outstanding performer in the VFL. That philosophy will be rewarded by players coming to the NB's looking for a pathway.
He was never meant to play AFL. He was experience for the youngsters in the 2's. No different to Aaron Mullett. He cost us nothing as a delisted free agent. We have enough kids, we need mature bodies around them to give strength to the Northern Blues.

Look at the Northern Blues this year. They would be easily the youngest team running around. Players like O'Shea, Mullet etc, they're there to provide depth and leadership. If it wasn't for injuries, they wouldn't be near our AFL team. The last 2 spots on the list are a small price to pay IMO.

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Don't know why but I see a resemblance to a flighty thoroughbred that was cornered. Whoa. Steady boy...steady.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

SOS represented Carlton perfectly.

Since when does Carlton let the media dictate our agenda? Eddie doesn’t and would never allow the media to dictate the Pies agenda, why the @#$%&! should Carlton? Why should Caro & Lloyd be allowed to bully their way through our club unchallenged?

FFS even the Gold Coast president stands up for his club, right or wrong in an unwavering manner. The message it sends to players, members and those involved in the club is that publicly we support you.

There is a public message and a behind closed doors message - same theme, but delivered differently & for different purposes.

MLG & SOS are mates, so what.

They are both hard arsed high achievers and both want success. There’s ego’s etc but does anyone seriously think those involved at the club aren’t striving tirelessly for success?

Judd is a high achiever. He won’t allow his legacy to be tarnished by failure.

Behind closed doors there have been and continue to be serious, hard discussions and questioning of approach, performance and outcomes.

How many know the actual story behind Trigg’s departure? Easy to criticise from the cheap seats.

We have had more successes than busts in drafting / recruiting over the last 3 years. It is an imperfect multi faceted process.

SOS pointed out 5 trades where we have clearly come out well ahead. There are others where we have stuffed up, flower and shit stirrers focus on the stuff ups & ignore the successes.

He was at times defensive & aggressive, he was accurate. He’s not a media performer yet he performed well.

Lloyd’s comments at the end reinforced the commonly held view that he’s a cheap sniper.

Members have the right to question & seek answers but Caro & Lloyd don't have any right to peddle gossip & lies about our club. Blinkered cheap thinking needs to be called out for what it is & SOS did that.

On balance that interview was a win for Carlton.

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