Now I've seen everything... someone advocating for Marc Murphy to retain the captaincy

Possibly the worst football call I've ever seen!

Our competition doesn't take Murph seriously.

Our competition doesn't take Murph seriously.

Murphy has shown loyalty in resigning. Do we not show loyalty in return? What message do we want to send to the squad? If you stick with Carlton, we stick with you? or if something better comes along then bye bye? Cripps may well be future Captain material, and he'll get his chance in due coarse. Until then Murphy should be rewarded for sticking with the club through thick and thin imho.

I don't put much stock into draft selections. There's just too much what ifs and success/disaster stories to make heads or tails of any of it. A quick example: Kane Lambert of Richmond. We had him. Played for the Bullants (his 2013 season was something special) and went to Richmond at pick 46 in the rookie draft. How did we not draft this player? He is a running machine. Look at our engine room today. He is exactly the type of player we desperately need. Yet all things considered, its a gamble we didn't take and Richmond did, which has paid huge dividends to the Tigers.

People say we need talent, the glaring obvious. But I think we need talent at picking talent. If I was in charge this would be my number one concern and I wouldn't rest until we got that talent at all costs. We've picked number 1 draft choices over and over whilst overlooking awesome talent in the process Kane Lambert being one example. What we need imho is the absolute best of the best at picking talent and obtaining for the club. Something I think we've seriously lacked for far far too long imho, and the reason we are in the shithouse position we find ourselves in today.

I think it’s much worse than this, I’m worried the club will soon cease to exist. We are irrelevant to the competition in almost every way I imaginable.

We are the worst team by 10 goals, and yet people think we have injuries, aside of Doc the rest would barely make any other AFL side and maybe not on merit some senior WAFL, VFL or SANFL sides.
We do not develop players full stop, never have and without radical change, never will.

I can understand this sentiment, but keep in mind that other clubs still absolutely @#$%&! LOVE our predicament and to lord it over us; whereas with Fitzroy, no one really noticed one way or the other. We're not irrelevant yet and, with our history, probably won't be unless we continue at this level for another generation.

True. Hence why he stayed no good offers #loyalty

I still can't get over the 'murphy should stay skipper' hot take earlier in the thread. There has not been a worse captain in our history and I reckon you would struggle to name five worse in the history of the AFL.

Hence it was my first point. Wasn't it? I think. Can't be buggered looking back.

I'm not too fussed by his lack of physicality, though it's unacceptable,. My bigger complaint is he seems so bloody introverted. He doesn't seem to lead by body language, etc. He seems so timid in that respect.

Heres the thing. When Cripps kicks a goal or gets into a dust up, all the boys run in and surround him, support him. He's their leader. Their spiritual, physical leader. When Murphy does something the response by his teammates is far less profound. That's it in a nutshell.

And Blue Vain, nobody is saying Cripps needs the captaincy to stay, rather it's a no brainer he should be given it and it just happens to be he's the only one bar Fisher and Simmo who seems to give a flying fkc right now... It's just how it is. Club are startling stupid if they don't do what is bleedingly obvious.

They don't.And they don't take Doherty seriously.............

Heres the thing. When Cripps kicks a goal or gets into a dust up, all the boys run in and surround him, support him. He's their leader. Their spiritual, physical leader. When Murphy does something the response by his teammates is far less profound. That's it in a nutshell.

I usually agree with your posts Mick but I cant wear that one. Docherty is every bit as courageous as Simmo and plays a similar role. Simmo doesn't lack respect.
I'm happy for Cripps to be captain but Doc is a gun as well. Super respected by our players and by the time his career finishes, he'll be one of our recent champions.

I think it’s much worse than this, I’m worried the club will soon cease to exist. We are irrelevant to the competition in almost every way I imaginable.

Ok BV..........came out wrong.Of course Doch is respected by our players.But in the eyes of the comp and particularly the GUNS of the comp Cripps is revered.He is a contested ball beast which Doc aint and as a consequence is not as highly regarded..............The whole competition is in awe of Cripps................it is definitaly not on Doch just a comment about there standing in the game..............right at the moment BV i don't give a damn what our players think.Tail don't wag the dog .