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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:39 pm 
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robertbb wrote:
SOS holds all the cards here.


Maybe. The hand is weakened somewhat if other clubs express an interest.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:48 pm 
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In terms of assets (picks and salary cap) we’re in a great position to pick up some quality, particularly if the PP is in the low teens.

The challenge will be in our ability to sell the club’s vision to these guys and convince them that we are going places.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:43 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
Robert and Red that pick wont get Shiel in my view particularly if it is pick 19 but what it will do is put Hawthorn in the frame to get him - lets see if SOS can use that pick and get McGovern and something back - doubt even if it is 11 or 12 it will get Shiel



Maybe not frank but it's a strong draft, add that with another and you never know. i would go after another quality mid with the pp instead of McGovern. He is a bit player playing in a stronger forward line in a stronger team. he is over rated and his numbers are average at best. It would be giving the crows a first round pick and a waste of perceived help that we will be chastised for by the rest of the footy public. We might as well try and take advantage of it that will benefit our major weakness, our mids.
We have two young gun kps and the rest can be manufactured for support at the drop of the ball what we desperately need is to get the ball down there.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:52 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
robertbb wrote:
SOS holds all the cards here.


Maybe. The hand is weakened somewhat if other clubs express an interest.


They can be interested all they like - if the names we're mentioning here choose us, they're ours.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:33 am 
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redback wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
Robert and Red that pick wont get Shiel in my view particularly if it is pick 19 but what it will do is put Hawthorn in the frame to get him - lets see if SOS can use that pick and get McGovern and something back - doubt even if it is 11 or 12 it will get Shiel



Maybe not frank but it's a strong draft, add that with another and you never know. i would go after another quality mid with the pp instead of McGovern. He is a bit player playing in a stronger forward line in a stronger team. he is over rated and his numbers are average at best. It would be giving the crows a first round pick and a waste of perceived help that we will be chastised for by the rest of the footy public. We might as well try and take advantage of it that will benefit our major weakness, our mids.
We have two young gun kps and the rest can be manufactured for support at the drop of the ball what we desperately need is to get the ball down there.


I'm not usually a fan of players changing positions willy nilly, but this guy could be played through the midfield and I wonder if that is what the plan is. If indeed we are interested.
We know how good he is in the air, but he often registers the fastest top speed on a field during a game, he is very quick... if he can master the defensive aspects and build his tank, don't see why he can't be a 60-40 mid-fwd.
And a very dangerous one.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:02 am 
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redback wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
Robert and Red that pick wont get Shiel in my view particularly if it is pick 19 but what it will do is put Hawthorn in the frame to get him - lets see if SOS can use that pick and get McGovern and something back - doubt even if it is 11 or 12 it will get Shiel



Maybe not frank but it's a strong draft, add that with another and you never know. i would go after another quality mid with the pp instead of McGovern. He is a bit player playing in a stronger forward line in a stronger team. he is over rated and his numbers are average at best. It would be giving the crows a first round pick and a waste of perceived help that we will be chastised for by the rest of the footy public. We might as well try and take advantage of it that will benefit our major weakness, our mids.
We have two young gun kps and the rest can be manufactured for support at the drop of the ball what we desperately need is to get the ball down there.

I see McGovern as a replacement for Rowe and Jones who are both nearing the end of their time playing AFL (and ASOS who retired)
Yes he's not priority not for 2019 but its an opportunity to get him now while he wants out, he should have 7/8 years left in him, its a trade for the long term


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:20 am 
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BIBI01 wrote:
redback wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
Robert and Red that pick wont get Shiel in my view particularly if it is pick 19 but what it will do is put Hawthorn in the frame to get him - lets see if SOS can use that pick and get McGovern and something back - doubt even if it is 11 or 12 it will get Shiel



Maybe not frank but it's a strong draft, add that with another and you never know. i would go after another quality mid with the pp instead of McGovern. He is a bit player playing in a stronger forward line in a stronger team. he is over rated and his numbers are average at best. It would be giving the crows a first round pick and a waste of perceived help that we will be chastised for by the rest of the footy public. We might as well try and take advantage of it that will benefit our major weakness, our mids.
We have two young gun kps and the rest can be manufactured for support at the drop of the ball what we desperately need is to get the ball down there.

I see McGovern as a replacement for Rowe and Jones who are both nearing the end of their time playing AFL (and ASOS who retired)
Yes he's not priority not for 2019 but its an opportunity to get him now while he wants out, he should have 7/8 years left in him, its a trade for the long term



He's 190cm, he is not a kp.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:44 pm 
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“It looks like BY DESIGN Geelong don’t need to fall down the ladder,” Scotty. All is good for them.
The latest A Grade player they can get into their team and by playing unders is Dalhaus from the Bulldogs.

Oh well, at least “by design” Carlton can trade in C Grade or B grade talent from other clubs, Jaksch, Kennedy etc etc


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:45 pm 
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tap in 79 wrote:
“It looks like BY DESIGN Geelong don’t need to fall down the ladder,” Scotty. All is good for them.
The latest A Grade player they can get into their team and by playing unders is Dalhaus from the Bulldogs.

Oh well, at least “by design” Carlton can trade in C Grade or B grade talent from other clubs, Jaksch, Kennedy etc etc


Its a bit like that

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:47 am 
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I see Richmond just got priority pick and landed Lynch.
Pity the bottom clubs don't deserve them as it's unfair to the competition.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:41 am 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
I see Richmond just got priority pick and landed Lynch.
Pity the bottom clubs don't deserve them as it's unfair to the competition.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:17 pm 
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Wouldn’t get too excited about our end of first round priority pick yet, by the time West Coast get their compo pick for Gaff and Bulldogs get their compo pick for Dalhous could end up being in the 20s.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:59 pm 
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We might just get lucky with this

The AFL will have to give us whatever they want to give to GC and they know that a middle first round or after first round will not be good enough for them


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:24 am 
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dadadadada wrote:
We might just get lucky with this

The AFL will have to give us whatever they want to give to GC and they know that a middle first round or after first round will not be good enough for them

If May goes they will get #4 on top of Lynch #3
They might decide that 2, 3 & 4 is enough.
if May stays, then the PP scenario raises its head again and we come into play.
How Gil thinks Richmond getting a free kick when they will go back to back is helping even up the competition is a mystery to me.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:32 am 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
dadadadada wrote:
We might just get lucky with this

The AFL will have to give us whatever they want to give to GC and they know that a middle first round or after first round will not be good enough for them

If May goes they will get #4 on top of Lynch #3
They might decide that 2, 3 & 4 is enough.
if May stays, then the PP scenario raises its head again and we come into play.
How Gil thinks Richmond getting a free kick when they will go back to back is helping even up the competition is a mystery to me.


May is under contract until next year.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:14 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
dadadadada wrote:
We might just get lucky with this

The AFL will have to give us whatever they want to give to GC and they know that a middle first round or after first round will not be good enough for them

If May goes they will get #4 on top of Lynch #3
They might decide that 2, 3 & 4 is enough.
if May stays, then the PP scenario raises its head again and we come into play.
How Gil thinks Richmond getting a free kick when they will go back to back is helping even up the competition is a mystery to me.

Why will GC get pick 4?
He is not a free agent.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:42 pm 
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Gil McLauchlan reminds me of Malcolm Turnbull.

All show, does nothing and talks like a politician.
He doesnt represent the people, or the common fan.
He supports his cush job and his Old Xavs mates.

His interview on On The Couch deflected any question thrown at him.
He justifies FA is working.
When asked about FA helping Top Teams and the antithesis of equalisation he rambled on some tangent.

Gil is a fraud.
The Commission have [REDACTED] up the game.
We can't get ourselves out of this situation with money.
We have to wait till we know the makey upity rules.

This Commission is hopeless.
The have changed the rules so many times there are no rules.
No rules around PP.
No rules umpires have to call eg kicking in danger, dropping the ball...the basics of our 150 year old game.

Now everyone expects them to come straight abot the PP.
They'll make that up obviously.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:43 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
dadadadada wrote:
We might just get lucky with this

The AFL will have to give us whatever they want to give to GC and they know that a middle first round or after first round will not be good enough for them

If May goes they will get #4 on top of Lynch #3
They might decide that 2, 3 & 4 is enough.
if May stays, then the PP scenario raises its head again and we come into play.
How Gil thinks Richmond getting a free kick when they will go back to back is helping even up the competition is a mystery to me.

Why will GC get pick 4?
He is not a free agent.


Exactly

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:04 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Gil McLauchlan reminds me of Malcolm Turnbull.

All show, does nothing and talks like a politician.
He doesnt represent the people, or the common fan.
He supports his cush job and his Old Xavs mates.

His interview on On The Couch deflected any question thrown at him.
He justifies FA is working.
When asked about FA helping Top Teams and the antithesis of equalisation he rambled on some tangent.

Gil is a fraud.
The Commission have [REDACTED] up the game.
We can't get ourselves out of this situation with money.
We have to wait till we know the makey upity rules.

This Commission is hopeless.
The have changed the rules so many times there are no rules.
No rules around PP.
No rules umpires have to call eg kicking in danger, dropping the ball...the basics of our 150 year old game.

Now everyone expects them to come straight abot the PP.
They'll make that up obviously.



Correct bondi and as long as muppets like us keep buying memberships, keep going and keep watching the idiot box nothing will change.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:42 pm 
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dadadadada wrote:
We might just get lucky with this

The AFL will have to give us whatever they want to give to GC and they know that a middle first round or after first round will not be good enough for them


Yep. We are very lucky the Gold Coast sucked this year, and we sucked even worse. For once we got lucky.

The AFL is desperate to prop the failing Gold Coast franchise. What they get we also get.

Likely a pick somewhere in the 10-13 range (mid first round).

As noted, Steven May is NOT a free-agent, so there will be no compensation related to his movement, that will be a standard trade from GC to someone else.


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