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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:21 am 
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It was a reward for finishing on the bottom of the ladder as a direct result of the penalty that this shit stain of a club got after delaying the inevitable with baseless appeals.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:26 am 
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I’m not here to defend Essendon*. They’d have been deregistered if I was in charge.

No doubt Caro has an agenda against us but she has a legitimate point on this.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:11 am 
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True...

But, originally, any top up player who showed something was meant to go back into the draft, by the end of the year, Essendon* had first call on them.
Doesn't give you superstars but helped with a couple of handy top ups....

17 tried, 2(or three?) kept

We instead had to try Oshea and Shaw...
2 tried.... What's the odds of a good one
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That is still assistance, that is still an advantage,... For drug cheating
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:00 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
And yet you can hand out drugs, have half your playing list disqualified, and be rewarded with pick 1 in the draft.
Sounds logical to me.
Self inflicted? Nah


It was a disgraceful outcome.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:21 am 
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I bet these CEO's are the ones benefiting from free agency. So the AFL F%#ked up mantra - let the teams on the top of the ladder get A grade free agents at no cost while keeping their first round pick, while assisting the bottom teams, with State League players.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:26 am 
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Relax people, it's not gonna happen.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:28 am 
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Rexy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
And yet you can hand out drugs, have half your playing list disqualified, and be rewarded with pick 1 in the draft.
Sounds logical to me.
Self inflicted? Nah


That wasn’t a priority pick though.


Of course it wasn't. We've got to stop squealing like little pussies. The AFL hear our coaches use the injury excuse all year and therefore expect us to be fine with a reasonable run of injuries. Then they hear us talk about 'synergy' in the playing group and think we'll be even better after the players have played together for a year or two.

Essendon* copped their whack and have come out the other side in a better position than we find ourselves in. Which IMO is @#$%&! remarkable.

We'll only improve when we take responsibility for where we are.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:02 pm 
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It was Caroline's belief we will not get a PP, she usually gets good mail.
When they were discussing us getting a state league player they all thought that was unfair too.
These senior players we have traded, Touhy, Henderson and Gibbs in recent years were not put up for trade.
Each of them requested to be traded, two were out of contract.
So I am not really not sure what else the club could do.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:16 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
And yet you can hand out drugs, have half your playing list disqualified, and be rewarded with pick 1 in the draft.
Sounds logical to me.
Self inflicted? Nah


That wasn’t a priority pick though.


They received a priority pick which was used on Laverde.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:25 pm 
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kezza wrote:
It was Caroline's belief we will not get a PP, she usually gets good mail.
When they were discussing us getting a state league player they all thought that was unfair too.
These senior players we have traded, Touhy, Henderson and Gibbs in recent years were not put up for trade.
Each of them requested to be traded, two were out of contract.
So I am not really not sure what else the club could do.


and that's a good argument....along with losing Waite, Betts etc for no compo...and Waite went on to give 3 good years at norf.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:35 pm 
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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... 55bd9cb3b2

Carlton, Gold Coast set to receive priority picks plus early access to state players to dismay of rival clubs
SAM LANDSBERGER, Herald Sun
19 minutes ago
Subscriber only

THE AFL Commission is expected to award struggling clubs Carlton and Gold Coast priority draft picks as well as exclusive access to mature-age talent at Monday’s pre-Brownlow meeting.

Rival clubs are set to furiously oppose the pre-draft access to state players given they would have wasted 12 months scouting players they will no longer be able to secure.

It means mature-age players — such as WAFL star Tim Kelly taken by Geelong in 2017 and VFL revelation Bayley Fritsch who was picked up the Demons last year — could be snapped up before clubs convene at the national draft.

CRYPTIC MESSAGE: WILL HALL JOIN SUNS EXODUS?

TRADE TARGET: CATS STILL CHASING SAINT STEVEN

While there is a strong belief that Carlton and Gold Coast would be awarded a priority draft pick, St Kilda and Brisbane Lions appear less likely to receive a bonus selection.

The priority picks will be placed either at the end of the first round or halfway through the first round.

The Blues appear certain to offer their priority pick to Adelaide in a trade for Mitch McGovern.

Carlton’s preference is to receive an extra pick to help land McGovern while Gold Coast appears more focused on receiving priority access to mature-age talent.

The Suns have done a lot of homework on Werribee forward Josh Corbett and rivals believe he could be signed before the draft.
The Blues are likely to use any priority pick in a trade for Mitch McGovern. Picture: AAP

The 190cm North Warrnambool lad has excelled as a third forward this year and is rated at around pick 40 in this year’s draft.

They have also been heavily linked to Sturt star Shane McAdam.

“Are we going to get a refund on all the flights we’ve paid for to go and watch these guys?” one list manager from a rival club said.

“It’s also the opportunity cost — you can’t be at two places at once, so we’re watching these guys at the expense of (watching) others.

“If a (state-league player) is taken at the national draft and you miss out, at least that pushes another player out to you. You might get someone else instead.”

The clubs most frustrated are the ones with later picks who have invested a significant amount of resources on scouting state league players.
Gold Coast in interested in Sturt’s Shane McAdam. Picture: AAP

Geelong coach Chris Scott recently lashed the mooted handouts.

“Our recruiting teams and the recruiting teams all over the competition have done a whole lot of work on the players already,” Scott said this month.

“So 11th hour to deny them access to the players they have done a lot of work on would be really unfair.

“If it’s something that will be proposed down the track and there is a little bit of notice, so at least the recruiting staff can put the energy into other areas, I think it has merit.

“The AFL has to investigate the levers to help the teams. But I’m not sure that if you by design fall down the ladder you should be rewarded too much.”

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:37 pm 
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
And yet you can hand out drugs, have half your playing list disqualified, and be rewarded with pick 1 in the draft.
Sounds logical to me.
Self inflicted? Nah


That wasn’t a priority pick though.


They received a priority pick which was used on Laverde.


:lol: ...well yes after they were stripped of their 1st & 2nd round picks in 2013 & 2014


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:43 pm 
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My tip is no PP for any club, rather access to State League players previously registered for draft

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:47 pm 
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Effes wrote:
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-gold-coast-set-to-receive-priority-picks-plus-early-access-to-state-players-to-dismay-of-rival-clubs/news-story/ae2f4e7da25225af95f34955bd9cb3b2

Carlton, Gold Coast set to receive priority picks plus early access to state players to dismay of rival clubs
SAM LANDSBERGER, Herald Sun
19 minutes ago
Subscriber only

THE AFL Commission is expected to award struggling clubs Carlton and Gold Coast priority draft picks as well as exclusive access to mature-age talent at Monday’s pre-Brownlow meeting.

Rival clubs are set to furiously oppose the pre-draft access to state players given they would have wasted 12 months scouting players they will no longer be able to secure.

It means mature-age players — such as WAFL star Tim Kelly taken by Geelong in 2017 and VFL revelation Bayley Fritsch who was picked up the Demons last year — could be snapped up before clubs convene at the national draft.

CRYPTIC MESSAGE: WILL HALL JOIN SUNS EXODUS?

TRADE TARGET: CATS STILL CHASING SAINT STEVEN

While there is a strong belief that Carlton and Gold Coast would be awarded a priority draft pick, St Kilda and Brisbane Lions appear less likely to receive a bonus selection.

The priority picks will be placed either at the end of the first round or halfway through the first round.

The Blues appear certain to offer their priority pick to Adelaide in a trade for Mitch McGovern.

Carlton’s preference is to receive an extra pick to help land McGovern while Gold Coast appears more focused on receiving priority access to mature-age talent.

The Suns have done a lot of homework on Werribee forward Josh Corbett and rivals believe he could be signed before the draft.
The Blues are likely to use any priority pick in a trade for Mitch McGovern. Picture: AAP

The 190cm North Warrnambool lad has excelled as a third forward this year and is rated at around pick 40 in this year’s draft.

They have also been heavily linked to Sturt star Shane McAdam.

“Are we going to get a refund on all the flights we’ve paid for to go and watch these guys?” one list manager from a rival club said.

“It’s also the opportunity cost — you can’t be at two places at once, so we’re watching these guys at the expense of (watching) others.

“If a (state-league player) is taken at the national draft and you miss out, at least that pushes another player out to you. You might get someone else instead.”

The clubs most frustrated are the ones with later picks who have invested a significant amount of resources on scouting state league players.
Gold Coast in interested in Sturt’s Shane McAdam. Picture: AAP

Geelong coach Chris Scott recently lashed the mooted handouts.

“Our recruiting teams and the recruiting teams all over the competition have done a whole lot of work on the players already,” Scott said this month.

“So 11th hour to deny them access to the players they have done a lot of work on would be really unfair.

“If it’s something that will be proposed down the track and there is a little bit of notice, so at least the recruiting staff can put the energy into other areas, I think it has merit.

“The AFL has to investigate the levers to help the teams. But I’m not sure that if you by design fall down the ladder you should be rewarded too much.”

To the dismay of other clubs.
Have a sook Scott, its so unfair blah blah.
What is unfair is top clubs getting free hits at free agents and the struggling teams get the left overs.
I will wait until it is confirmed but Caro doesn't get wrong very often.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:59 pm 
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kezza wrote:
I will wait until it is confirmed but Caro doesn't get wrong very often.


She does get plenty stuff wrong. She wrote an article about James Hird being sacked, which was totally wrong.

She throws darts at a wall. And in this case, if we are to believe the Herald Sun, she is wrong again.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:59 pm 
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
My tip is no PP for any club, rather access to State League players previously registered for draft


Hmmm, read the linked Herald-Sun article.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:36 pm 
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kezza wrote:
It was Caroline's belief we will not get a PP, she usually gets good mail.
When they were discussing us getting a state league player they all thought that was unfair too.
These senior players we have traded, Touhy, Henderson and Gibbs in recent years were not put up for trade.
Each of them requested to be traded, two were out of contract.
So I am not really not sure what else the club could do.




This is what Caroline Wilson wanted to happen,
She can piss off and suck a lemon.

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LELZ RANCE.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:19 pm 
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Scott is a moron, pushing this rubbish narrative that Carlton fell down the ladder by design. Waite, Henderson, Yarran and Bell walked, Robinson and Garlett were off the rails and 'the champ' did his knee. The first year we went to the draft and began our 'reset' we were already on the bottom.

Life must be hard, being gifted a premiership team with a huge home ground advantage at a ground funded by the taxpayer and the ability to cherry pick the best talent from weaker clubs year after year. Can't wait for these pricks to fall off the edge of a cliff.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:18 am 
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Brently8 wrote:
Scott is a moron, pushing this rubbish narrative that Carlton fell down the ladder by design. Waite, Henderson, Yarran and Bell walked, Robinson and Garlett were off the rails and 'the champ' did his knee. The first year we went to the draft and began our 'reset' we were already on the bottom.

Life must be hard, being gifted a premiership team with a huge home ground advantage at a ground funded by the taxpayer and the ability to cherry pick the best talent from weaker clubs year after year. Can't wait for these pricks to fall off the edge of a cliff.

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