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Effes wrote:

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21m21 minutes ago

Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow.
Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half.
Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard.
Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others.
Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards.
Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it.

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

The defensive mindset in some of our players costs us a lot of scoring opportunities. If the opposition turns it over forward of centre, GO!!! You do not need to kick it sideways and backwards to setup, they aren't setup so hit the scoreboard when you can!

Effes wrote:

Look Bolts, I like you, but FFS if you want the ball locked in our forward line, start playing guys who don't move like glaciers and are basically witches hats when they don't have the ball

If Pickett, Le Bois and Garlett have half decent games this week then please bring them in & lets see if that helps

Effes wrote:

Blue Beatle wrote:

Effes wrote:

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

Effes wrote:

sticksaftersiren87 wrote:

Lambs Kerridge graham Kerr all no good. Kerr would be ok in a good side.

Weitering shows zero intensity and follows his man to the ball.

We would be worst at getting ground balls in our forward 50 in the AFL.

First half just about worst I have seen.

Jones, Cripps, Fisher, SPS, O’Brien all good. Simpson good after half time.

Murphy, Kennedy, Marchbank, Docherty and Pickett would improve this team no doubt

Kerr's a 19yo who's in his 2nd year. Took 8 marks today and has shown something in his first few games.

Love how supporters write kids off.

Blue Beatle wrote:

Effes wrote:

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

Blue Beatle wrote:

Effes wrote:

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

doofdoof wrote:

Effes wrote:

Not hard to work out is it? Just too tall and Caz back without a tall being replaced was MC insanity

Blue Beatle wrote:

Effes wrote:

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

sinbagger wrote:

Blue Beatle wrote:

Effes wrote:

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

Because it is an excuse, our problems are much deeper than that, there have been premiership teams with the similar age profiles, probably even younger.
It becomes o.k to lose because we don't have enough 23-27 year olds. This filters down to the playing group. This is how you end up with a losing culture. Then we go for a quick fix by bringing in players who are in the right age bracket without doing due diligence, we are reactionary, we will never succeed with this mentality.

Meekster wrote:

.... Carlton Draft was tasty
Got smashed.....

You must've got very smashed if you thought Carlton Draft was tasty....
#Cat'spiss

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sinbagger wrote:

Blue Beatle wrote:

Effes wrote:

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

Exactly. It’s why we don’t need a priority pick, we need decent senior players to support the kids. This is done through free agency.

smithy wrote:

sinbagger wrote:

Blue Beatle wrote:

Effes wrote:

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

100% correct
Club continually gives the players and coaches excuses for losing

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Blue Beatle wrote:

Effes wrote:

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

smithy wrote:

sinbagger wrote:

Blue Beatle wrote:

Effes wrote:

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

100% correct
Club continually gives the players and coaches excuses for losing

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sinbagger wrote:

Blue Beatle wrote:

Effes wrote:

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

Exactly. It’s why we don’t need a priority pick, we need decent senior players to support the kids. This is done through free agency.

smithy wrote:

sinbagger wrote:

Blue Beatle wrote:

Effes wrote:

Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ?

We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

100% correct
Club continually gives the players and coaches excuses for losing

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Author:	sinbagger [ Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:	R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand?

Author:	billc3 [ Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:52 pm ]
Post subject:	R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
rhys87 wrote: The defensive mindset in some of our players costs us a lot of scoring opportunities. If the opposition turns it over forward of centre, GO!!! You do not need to kick it sideways and backwards to setup, they aren't setup so hit the scoreboard when you can! That would involve running. Skills are ok, game plan and adaptability are poor.. Effort was extremely poor. No blocking, shepherd and half arsed tackling.... won't win at AFL with that going on Go Blues

Author:	Blues Clues [ Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:01 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
doofdoof wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Look Bolts, I like you, but FFS if you want the ball locked in our forward line, start playing guys who don't move like glaciers and are basically witches hats when they don't have the ball If Pickett, Le Bois and Garlett have half decent games this week then please bring them in & lets see if that helps Not hard to work out is it? Just too tall and Caz back without a tall being replaced was MC insanity

Author:	Blues Clues [ Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
doofdoof wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Look Bolts, I like you, but FFS if you want the ball locked in our forward line, start playing guys who don't move like glaciers and are basically witches hats when they don't have the ball If Pickett, Le Bois and Garlett have half decent games this week then please bring them in & lets see if that helps Not hard to work out is it? Just too tall and Caz back without a tall being replaced was MC insanity

Author:	MIL [ Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
sinbagger wrote: Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand? This is the key. Look at Freo.....more youngsters than us but look at their senior core.....Fyffe, Sandliands etc versus Simmo and Kreuz. We have no one for our young guys to feed off or follow. Basket case.

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Author:	Blue Sombrero [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
doofdoof wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Look Bolts, I like you, but FFS if you want the ball locked in our forward line, start playing guys who don't move like glaciers and are basically witches hats when they don't have the ball If Pickett, Le Bois and Garlett have half decent games this week then please bring them in & lets see if that helps Garlett injured

Author:	Blue Sombrero [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
jim wrote: sticksaftersiren87 wrote: Lambs Kerridge graham Kerr all no good. Kerr would be ok in a good side. Weitering shows zero intensity and follows his man to the ball. We would be worst at getting ground balls in our forward 50 in the AFL. First half just about worst I have seen. Jones, Cripps, Fisher, SPS, O’Brien all good. Simpson good after half time. Murphy, Kennedy, Marchbank, Docherty and Pickett would improve this team no doubt Kerr's a 19yo who's in his 2nd year. Took 8 marks today and has shown something in his first few games. Love how supporters write kids off. A little leaguer would have had the balls to take that shot from the point of the ten yard square. And she'd have kicked it.

Author:	Navy Blue Horse [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:50 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
sinbagger wrote: Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand? yep....neale, fyfe, mundy, ballantyne, hill, sandi vs simpson (the exception), rowe, thomas, jones, kreuzer, kerridge, ed curnow

Author:	bluedog [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:08 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
This game showed once again that we don't have enough physically strong bodies, as well as players who are confident using both feet.

Author:	smithy [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:17 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
sinbagger wrote: Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand? Because it is an excuse, our problems are much deeper than that, there have been premiership teams with the similar age profiles, probably even younger. It becomes o.k to lose because we don't have enough 23-27 year olds. This filters down to the playing group. This is how you end up with a losing culture. Then we go for a quick fix by bringing in players who are in the right age bracket without doing due diligence, we are reactionary, we will never succeed with this mentality.

Author:	Chitty's Finger [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:36 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
Blues Clues wrote: doofdoof wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Look Bolts, I like you, but FFS if you want the ball locked in our forward line, start playing guys who don't move like glaciers and are basically witches hats when they don't have the ball If Pickett, Le Bois and Garlett have half decent games this week then please bring them in & lets see if that helps Not hard to work out is it? Just too tall and Caz back without a tall being replaced was MC insanity Yes. And Graham playing at docklands is lunacy. Poor at so many levels Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk

Author:	The Normal One [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:39 am ]
Post subject:	R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
sinbagger wrote: Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand? Exactly. It’s why we don’t need a priority pick, we need decent senior players to support the kids. This is done through free agency.

Author:	Sydney Blue [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
smithy wrote: sinbagger wrote: Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand? Because it is an excuse, our problems are much deeper than that, there have been premiership teams with the similar age profiles, probably even younger. It becomes o.k to lose because we don't have enough 23-27 year olds. This filters down to the playing group. This is how you end up with a losing culture. Then we go for a quick fix by bringing in players who are in the right age bracket without doing due diligence, we are reactionary, we will never succeed with this mentality. 100% correct Club continually gives the players and coaches excuses for losing Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk

Author:	99prelim [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:14 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
moshe25 wrote: Meekster wrote: .... Carlton Draft was tasty Got smashed..... You must've got very smashed if you thought Carlton Draft was tasty.... #Cat'spiss Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk #areapostrophesusedinhashtagsjustcheckin'

Author:	Rexy [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:14 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
sinbagger wrote: Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand? 20. Lachie Plowman 11//9/94 (2012 ND#3 GWS, 2015 Tr.P) 32. Nicholas Graham 12/6/94 (2012 ND#54) 15. Sam Docherty 17/10/93 (2011 ND#12 Bris, 2013 Tr.P) 11. Sam Kerridge 26//4/93 (2011 ND#27 ADEL, 2015 Tr.P) 13. Jed Lamb 19//10/92 (2010 ND#21 SYD, 2014 PSD#1 GWS, 2015 Tr.P) 24. Cam O’Shea 13/3/92 (2010 ND#52 P.Adel, 2017 PSD#1) 37. Matt Shaw 5/2/92 (2010 U/18 selection GCS, 2017 RD#3) 18. Aaron Mullett 23/2/92 (2011 RD#34, 2012 ND#91, 2017 DFA) 34. Andrew Phillips 3/7/91 (2010 RD#4 GWS, 2012 ND#97 GWS, 2015 Tr.P) 14. Liam Jones 24/2/91 (2008 ND#32 WB, 2014 Tr.P) 41. Levi Casboult 15/3/90 (2009 RD#44, 2012 ND #89) 46. Matthew Wright 14/12/89 (2009 RD#33 Ade, 2011 ND#82 Ade, 2015 DFA) 35. Edward Curnow 7/11/89 (2010 RD#18, 2013 ND#89) 08. Matthew Kreuzer 13/5/89 (2007 ND PP #1) 27. Matthew Lobbe 12/2/89 (2007 ND#16 PA, 2017 Tr.P) 44. Alex Silvagni 29/9/87 (2009 RD#24, 2010 ND#109, 2016 RD#23) 03. Marc Murphy 19/7/87 (2005 ND PP #1) 39. Dale Thomas 21/6/87 (2005 PP ND #2 Coll, 2013 FA) 17. Sam Rowe 19/11/87 (2011 ND#44) 06. Kade Simpson 5/5/84 (2002 ND #45) We have one good player in that list of 24yo+ The rest are average, cooked or no good.

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Author:	kezza [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:01 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
The Normal One wrote: sinbagger wrote: Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand? Exactly. It’s why we don’t need a priority pick, we need decent senior players to support the kids. This is done through free agency. This is where our problem lies. Getting good free agents to come to us.

Author:	bondiblue [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:07 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
Sydney Blue wrote: smithy wrote: sinbagger wrote: Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand? Because it is an excuse, our problems are much deeper than that, there have been premiership teams with the similar age profiles, probably even younger. It becomes o.k to lose because we don't have enough 23-27 year olds. This filters down to the playing group. This is how you end up with a losing culture. Then we go for a quick fix by bringing in players who are in the right age bracket without doing due diligence, we are reactionary, we will never succeed with this mentality. 100% correct Club continually gives the players and coaches excuses for losing Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk I know where you are coming from SB. Fair enough to suggest the root of the problem is 'mindset'.

Author:	billc3 [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:22 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
Sydney Blue wrote: smithy wrote: sinbagger wrote: Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand? Because it is an excuse, our problems are much deeper than that, there have been premiership teams with the similar age profiles, probably even younger. It becomes o.k to lose because we don't have enough 23-27 year olds. This filters down to the playing group. This is how you end up with a losing culture. Then we go for a quick fix by bringing in players who are in the right age bracket without doing due diligence, we are reactionary, we will never succeed with this mentality. 100% correct Club continually gives the players and coaches excuses for losing Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk I get all of that..... But that wasn't the problem yesterday. There's a reason the supporters were Booing at half time. It's not because Charlie or Wright missed easy shots... It's because they were watching the game. Watching a Freo player under pressure on the boundary, so a teammate runs to help and receive a tap out or handball.... His opponent sits back...that's why he receives it and is away.....probably in the next link up play too because no one has followed or chased.. That's an example... Was happening everywhere.. Block, pressure, run etc, don't need to be 22-27 to do that.. Players have the skills and plenty showed it, but almost all, yes ALMOST ALL were on holidays in the first half I get we get killed in contested ball and that will take time....BUT THAT'S NOT WHY SUPPORTERS WERE BOOING. Go Blues

Author:	Sidefx [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:45 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
The Normal One wrote: sinbagger wrote: Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand? Exactly. It’s why we don’t need a priority pick, we need decent senior players to support the kids. This is done through free agency. It's Exactly why we need a priority pick. We need high picks to trade for quality mid aged players like Gaff, Kelly etc. Otherwise we have nothing as these types of players are not going to come to the club to win a premiership anytime soon. Shit....we couldn't even get Rockcliff, Saad or Smith let alone any elite players. Or everyone just has to come to terms with us waiting for our top picks of the last couple of years to mature and the club needs to lock them into long contracts to stop letting them get poached, especially the kids on the fringe of elite kids.

Author:	Sidefx [ Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: R13 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion
Sydney Blue wrote: smithy wrote: sinbagger wrote: Blue Beatle wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton FC ‏Verified account @CarltonFC 21m21 minutes ago Bolton: Freo was in reasonable nick from last week and jumped us from the start. Our response was too slow. Bolton: It could have got quite messy, but to our players' credit they fought back in the second half. Bolton: We couldn't lock the ball in our forward half. Our pressure wasn't up to standard. Bolton: Leadership is a work in progress. We're missing leaders like Docherty, Murphy and Alex Silvagni, but that provides leadership opportunities for others. Bolton: Playing consistently at a high level is a learned behaviour. That's what we have to aim towards. Bolton: We don't accept losing, but our age profile has dropped significantly this season and we have many injuries. We'll fight through it. Same old bullshit about age profile and injuries - freo were younger and have much longer injury list ..... ? We have a crap core of players 23-27 year old range, why is that so difficult for everyone to understand? Because it is an excuse, our problems are much deeper than that, there have been premiership teams with the similar age profiles, probably even younger. It becomes o.k to lose because we don't have enough 23-27 year olds. This filters down to the playing group. This is how you end up with a losing culture. Then we go for a quick fix by bringing in players who are in the right age bracket without doing due diligence, we are reactionary, we will never succeed with this mentality. 100% correct Club continually gives the players and coaches excuses for losing Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk I agree too. The paying group seem to have no accountability for poor disposals, but this also comes from the fact we have had so many injuries they know they won't be replaced because the coaches need wins for the board, members and their jobs. For the rest of the year the club needs to make a public statement and say if you have 5 or more poor disposals per game your off to the 2's. And put a minimum quota on pressure acts. At least we will see who wants and needs to remain at the club and it might even attract some quality players because of the need for accountability.