CK95 wrote:
They should change 1982 while they're at it
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And the reinstate Walks for Mark Of The Year(2011?)
And Diesels Brownlow in 1994
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| Author: | tap in 79 [ Thu May 10, 2018 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Retrospective Norm Smiths-Crane, Crosswell and Walls |
This is a must. We have the footage, newspaper votes etc. that confirm Crane deserved it for 1968. It is time to introduce retrospective Norm Smiths. Newspaper votes rated Crane as best, Nicholls 2nd. Get it done AFL. http://m.carltonfc.com.au/news/2018-05- ... medal-push |
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| Author: | Rexy [ Thu May 10, 2018 4:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Retrospective Norm Smiths-Crane, Crosswell and Walls |
https://twitter.com/CarltonFC/status/994457270107815937 |
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| Author: | CK95 [ Thu May 10, 2018 5:27 pm ] |
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They should change 1982 while they're at it Sent from my XT1033 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Noonamah Blue [ Thu May 10, 2018 6:45 pm ] |
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CK95 wrote: They should change 1982 while they're at it Sent from my XT1033 using Tapatalk And the reinstate Walks for Mark Of The Year(2011?) And Diesels Brownlow in 1994 |
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| Author: | Mots87 [ Thu May 10, 2018 8:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Retrospective Norm Smiths-Crane, Crosswell and Walls |
Take one of the drug cheats premierships away for not winning a Grand Final. |
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| Author: | billc3 [ Thu May 10, 2018 9:37 pm ] |
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Mots87 wrote: Take one of the drug cheats premierships away for not winning a Grand Final. Two....... Go Blues |
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| Author: | AGRO [ Thu May 10, 2018 10:05 pm ] |
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Noonamah Blue wrote: CK95 wrote: They should change 1982 while they're at it Sent from my XT1033 using Tapatalk And the reinstate Walks for Mark Of The Year(2011?) And Diesels Brownlow in 1993 Amen to all that and also edited for accuracy. 
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| Author: | jim [ Fri May 11, 2018 3:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Retrospective Norm Smiths-Crane, Crosswell and Walls |
From Blueseum 1972 Best: R.Walls, J.Nicholls, B.Doull, B.Armstrong, G.Southby, A.Jesaulenko, P.Jones, T.Keogh, A.Gallagher, D.Dickson, P.Hurst. 1970 Best: B.Crosswell, D.McKay, S.Silvagni, I.Robertson, J.Nicholls, S.Jackson, A.Jesaulenko, R.Walls 1968 Best: G.Crane, J.Nicholls, I.Robertson, A.Jesaulenko, A.Gallagher, B.Kekovich, S.Silvagni, I.Collins. |
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| Author: | bondiblue [ Fri May 11, 2018 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Retrospective Norm Smiths-Crane, Crosswell and Walls |
All the above Well stated Fellas |
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| Author: | fmurphy30 [ Fri May 11, 2018 10:23 pm ] |
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Somewhat off topic as I get we are looking at the pre-Norm Smith Medal era, but FWIW: Wayne Johnston or Mike Fitzpatrick should have got it in 82. Rioli was a joke. Peter Francis in 79? Harmes had his moments but wasn't BOG. Kouta might have been stiff in 95. Most of Diesel's damage was after the game was shot. |
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| Author: | moshe25 [ Sat May 12, 2018 12:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Retrospective Norm Smiths-Crane, Crosswell and Walls |
Just imo: 1968: Crane, Nicholls 1970: Crosswell (by a mile) 1972: Walls, Jones, Doull 1979: Peter Francis 1981: Fitzpatrick (by a mile) 1982: Johnston 1987: Johnston, DRJ, Glasscott 1995: Kouta Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | murraycray [ Sat May 12, 2018 6:48 am ] |
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moshe25 wrote: Just imo: 1968: Crane, Nicholls 1970: Crosswell (by a mile) 1972: Walls, Jones, Doull 1979: Peter Francis 1981: Fitzpatrick (by a mile) 1982: Johnston 1987: Johnston, DRJ, Glasscott 1995: Kouta Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk your ''imo'' is a fair call. |
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| Author: | kingkerna [ Sat May 12, 2018 11:46 am ] |
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While we're at it give Voss the one that he was robbed of. |
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| Author: | rhino27 [ Sat May 12, 2018 1:27 pm ] |
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[quote="moshe25"]Just imo: 1968: Crane, Nicholls 1970: Crosswell (by a mile) 1972: Walls, Jones, Doull 1979: Peter Francis 1981: Fitzpatrick (by a mile) 1982: Johnston 1987: Johnston, DRJ, Glasscott 1995: Kouta Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk[/quote Agree with most of this. Still think Peter Dean was BOG in 95 though. |
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| Author: | Fenwick Snap [ Sun May 13, 2018 1:53 pm ] |
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95: 1. Williams deserved it - consistent throughout 2. Kouta - quiet 3rd quarter for some reason, at least compared to Williams 3. Dean 87: I was busy, and confess that I still haven't watched it properly - something to look forward to. Rhys-Jones has never seemed a controversial decision 82: Johnno for sure 79: Buckley - Lou got it right. I've watched it umpteen times, and in a game that lots of cameos and dominant periods from several players, Jimmy was great across the whole game 72: Have to watch it a few more hundred times (oh joy). 70: Wasn't there, and only have the official vid that I've watched quite a bit. I know you're adamant about Croswell, Moshe, but give McKay some consideration. Despite some goals kicked on him, great job, and very stiff to get a nothing free kick against him in the last, as we were surging. At least, that's how I remember it. Maybe I need to watch it again...and again...and again... 68: Probably Crane. Kekovich not a bad effort to slot 4 out of 7 on a horribly windy day. Have to watch this one a few more times (not an attractive game though). |
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| Author: | GWS [ Sun May 13, 2018 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Retrospective Norm Smiths-Crane, Crosswell and Walls |
rhino27 wrote: Still think Peter Dean was BOG in 95 though. Was easily best on podium in 1987. |
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| Author: | rhino27 [ Sun May 13, 2018 2:05 pm ] |
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GWS wrote: rhino27 wrote: Still think Peter Dean was BOG in 95 though. Was easily best on podium in 1987. Was pretty good in 95 too. Until he fell off it! |
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| Author: | tap in 79 [ Sun May 13, 2018 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Retrospective Norm Smiths-Crane, Crosswell and Walls |
The Sun newspaper gave votes as following 19 votes - Gary Crane 12 votes - John Nicholls 2 votes - Ian Collins. Surely they can just award them their medals....just say Gary Crane - Norm Smith Medal (Retrospective *) * retrospective based on the votes accrued by the Sun Newspaper at the time. I am pretty sure The Age gave similar votes. Or if the AFL doesn't trust The Sun newspaper they could accrue a new panel and get them to vote on it...eg Leigh Matthews, Tony DeBolfo etc...or whoever they want. Brent Crosswell could be a dual Norm Smith medallist (14 votes 1970 g/f...McKay - 4 votes) and then he could have won it for 1975 when at North.... not sure of the votes in that match, but I guess Rantall would get it if Crosswell didn't for that match as he annihilated Leigh Matthews. These people are legends of the sport and deserve their recognition. |
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| Author: | tap in 79 [ Sun May 13, 2018 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Retrospective Norm Smiths-Crane, Crosswell and Walls |
moshe25 wrote: Just imo: 1968: Crane, Nicholls 1970: Crosswell (by a mile) 1972: Walls, Jones, Doull 1979: Peter Francis 1981: Fitzpatrick (by a mile) 1982: Johnston 1987: Johnston, DRJ, Glasscott 1995: Kouta Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Nice one...I agree with your selections !!..... all but 1979...I would have stuck with Harmes. I know Francis was great, but Harmes did something that everyone will remember for the rest of football eternity. 1981- Kinda agree with you, but I would have given it to either Hunter, Harmes (I have a slight Harmes bias) or Johnston. Probably Johnston. He set the tone with his attack on the ball. 1987- ok with DRJ winning it. It was a psychological lift he gave his team by beating the Hawthorn lair with the fluro boots...but based on who played best I thought Johnston had a great 1st half but faded. Glascott was good throughout....and had a harder task-taking on Platten. I would have given it to Glascott. Just personal opinion. 1995 - Williams BOG. |
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| Author: | GWS [ Sun May 13, 2018 3:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Retrospective Norm Smiths-Crane, Crosswell and Walls |
rhino27 wrote: GWS wrote: rhino27 wrote: Still think Peter Dean was BOG in 95 though. Was easily best on podium in 1987. Was pretty good in 95 too. Until he fell off it! That’s what I was referring to but thought it was 87. I could be wrong. It almost happened once before... |
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