Eight out of 62 have said they’re very happy and you convert that into “all I’m sure are totally disheartened, if not disgusted”.

Ever thought about going into politics?

Put up a poll asking if members expected to be 0 and 6

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Eight out of 62 have said they’re very happy and you convert that into “all I’m sure are totally disheartened, if not disgusted”.

Ever thought about going into politics?

Ever thought about reading what I wrote?


Rebuild v overall position.

One might be appreciative of the fact that a rebuild is required, and even happy with how that rebuild is progressing, but not with where the Carlton Football Club still finds itself after lengthy periods in the wilderness.

Are you, yourself, not at least disheartened with where the Club still finds itself after so long?

i believe in the rebuild. it's the only way. I have all the patience in the world for that.

i'm not convinced we have the right coaching, and development at the club. several players have taken a backwards step while others seem to have stopped developing. Bolton continues to make questionable development decisions (swapping weitering from back, to forward to back again) and some of bolton's gameday decisions and his inability to swap and change on the day when things aren't working (like leaving jones back on an island on lynch, while weiters is playing like a blind & lost man up front Vs the GC).

the whole questionable loose zone where defensive players were guarding grass, not their opponent that we played for the first 4 rounds – when it never worked for whole quarter should have been abandoned sooner than what it was.


then there is the issue with scouting and the list. we're way too top heavy and the list is full of other club's discards & deadwood. In hindsight it would have been better to keep some of our own deadwood around. Buckley is a great example. He was inconsistent at afl level. but he had burst, outside run and he had a dip.

I'd much rather still be watching him (bringing an element of foot speed) than i would Mullet, Oshea, Lamb [insert any of the half dozen 1-speed plodders we've accumalated from other clubs who are also not up to afl footy].


year three into the rebuild, if we had the right coaching and development, I'd have expected us to at least be on pace to match last year's effort. we were in all but 2, maybe 3 of the entire games we played last season.

this year, we haven't been close to being in a game but more importantly, our level of play, the player's commitment and unity was far greater last year than it is this year. there is decline in other areas of our play - hand and foot skills, disposals, accuracy, efficiency and most noticeable of all. the players don't seem to knwo the gameplan and what is expected of them. at least from the sidelines that is how they're playing.


... all is not well with the club. The WAFL were terrible, our reserves are absolutely horrendous and the seniors are on pace to being the worst team ever in the AFL.

Generally happy. I work in an industry where projects & jobs within projects often take longer than you, or those around you, initially thought they would. It happens & I believe it is better to produce a quality result over time than try to rush & churn out rubbish. So whilst I expected us to be tracking better this year, I can't be too critical.

I think one thing we get wrong as supporters is, over the offseason, we look at the list & think about how good that best 22 would look - but without knowing who will be out injured & the effect this has on the rest. We are simply not at a stage where we can cover an injury hole like the good clubs can.

I liked Bolton before he came to Carlton & I hoped we'd get him. Still a big fan.

Having said all that - in the short term this whole footy club desperately needs a win. Just to get the media off our backs & give the players a boost. Hopefully against the Dons or the Dees in the next few weeks.

yeah, 'blindly' was a really poor choice of words. i'm pretty much on the same page as all of that, that you state. turfing bolton wouldn't guarantee anything either.


i think if we go 0-11 he's really going to struggle to hold his job. but that's a long, long way off. I guess we watch and wait over the next few weeks.

Its a loaded poll
Questions are worse than John Howards republican poll.


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The rebuild is necessary but the number of players who have plateaued or gone backwards is concerning - you expect ups and downs with youngsters though so I guess we won't know for another couple of years whether our player development is as poor as it seems right now. I don't share the same faith in the draft as most so my optimism is likewise more limited than others'.

Players who have gone backwards? Let's look at the players to earn Rising star votes last year.

Andrew McGrath- Far more inconsistent than last year
Ryan Burton- Dropped to the VFL
Sam Powell Pepper- External problems but not playing the footy he was last year
Charlie Curnow- Slightly improved
Eric Hipwood - struggling
SPS- stagnated
Lewis Melican- Mostly injured
Tom Phillips - Improved but still a very average player. Lets remember he is the best part of 12 months older or more than the others.
Perhaps that's part of the answer. With age comes improved consistency.


It looks to me most of the young players have stagnated or gone backwards. Inconsistency is the only constant.