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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:38 pm 
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Had a feeling we wouldn't get thrashed if we had a real dip, which we did.

That said I think the better side won. They just looked a bit better when they were out & streaming forward, wheras we always seem a bit shocked to be sitting here when it's our turn.

Pros:

- Dow showed his class on a few occasions. His best game.

- Harry well done. Haven't seen the replay but would've liked to see him clean that bloke up in the 3rd I think it was.

- Jones' spoiling was really good I thought

- Crowd not too bad, thought we'd only get about 20k

Cons:

- We often scramble a panic kick out of defence which gets marked by them at 50. Happens a lot

- The crucial game killer moments. O'Shea's dropped chest mark, Plowman dropped mark, SPS kick to them, Plowman for some reason grabbing Le Cras by the jumper

- Not sure if he was playing as a defensive or what but Wright was very quiet again. I like him but that's 2 in a row





You couldn’t squeeze Simpson in for a con or two?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:21 pm 
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Pros:

We showed a want to compete. Loved the tackling and aggression at the body. Haven't seen that before this year.
Defensive organisation. Don't know if there's been an adjustment, or if it was just the difference having a real leader in Rowe back there made.
Got a nice run with the umps.
The opposition kicked inaccurately.
The remaining senior core led the way. Cripps, Simmo, Ed, Rowe and Daisy.
Dow, Harry and O'Brien were all pretty exciting.
Charlie and Fisher continue to be good.
Phillips showed again that he's a good player. Did a terrific job today against Natanui.
Jones was very good.
Mullett was good.
Kerridge had a good 2nd half.

Cons:

Our ability to butcher goal scoring opportunities and concede easy goals through simple spilled marks, fumbles and horrible turnovers.
O'Shea tries hard. But his kicking is horrible.
SOJ and Lamb seem to be invisible most weeks, until the pace comes off the game late.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:21 pm 
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You replace Mullet and O'Shea with Williamson and Docherty and we win the game. Those two walking inkspots just don't do it for me.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:23 pm 
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You replace Mullet and O'Shea with Williamson and Docherty and we win the game. Those two walking inkspots just don't do it for me.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:29 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
jim wrote:
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Phillips was better than Kreuzer
Phillips will never be better than Krueuer. Just in while Kreuzer is injured. Liked his 6 tackles though so he did dig in.


Horses for courses, That was better against Naitanui than i remember Kruezer ever doing.

I do have a shit memory though.

I would rest Kreuzer against the big leaping rucks and play Phillips in those games.
Tonight was the beginning of the end of Casboult.
As soon as Kruez is fit it will be Phillips and Kruez
Harry showed Levi what kicking straight means
Levi is now history

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:21 am 
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Crippa wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
jim wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
Phillips was better than Kreuzer
Phillips will never be better than Krueuer. Just in while Kreuzer is injured. Liked his 6 tackles though so he did dig in.


Horses for courses, That was better against Naitanui than i remember Kruezer ever doing.

I do have a shit memory though.

I would rest Kreuzer against the big leaping rucks and play Phillips in those games.
Tonight was the beginning of the end of Casboult.
As soon as Kruez is fit it will be Phillips and Kruez
Harry showed Levi what kicking straight means
Levi is now history

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Casboult kicked 2.0 dead straight through the middle.
80% efficiency.
5 score involvements.
6 marks.
All while playing backup ruck against Nic Nat.

Talk about blindly ignoring facts to stick to your same predictable negative stuff :clap:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:53 am 
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Loved Dow's first quarter, taste of things to come. Play him all year and he'll be a star after another pre-season.

Harry McKay. Great to see his game.

Really encouraging signs from Curnow, LOB, Fisher.

Philips did some great things. His tackling and marking was very good. Happy to keep him in and give Kreuzer as long as he needs to get back to 100%.

Played a bit more (but not too much) defensive style this week, more physical pressure and intensity. Full credit to Bolton for realising a change was needed, we played a lot better as a result.

Depth is being tested with all these injuries but I'd really rather quite a few other blokes in over O'Shea. Struggling to see where Silvagni will fit while all of McKay, Curnow and Casboult are in the team.

I still think there's an AFL player in Kerridge. Gives everything for all four quarters.

SPS is feeling the lack of a decent pre-season I reckon. Will be a star though and he's getting good AFL experience.

For me, faith restored in the coach and most importantly it's another more AFL experience for Dow, LOB, SPS, Fisher, Curnow, Silvagni, McKay, Garlett.

Worth mentioning who wasn't available again too. Murphy, Docherty, Kreuzer, Marchbank, Weitering, Williamson, Kennedy, Lang, Byrne, Pickett. Will make a massive difference when we have those guys back.


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jim wrote:
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jim wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Better effort cant ask for more than that
Not before time
Mckay stays
Is Fisher eligible for NRS
Casboult is a lazy footballer
Phillips stays in
We are killing Cripps
Late time goals killed us


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Not sure Phillips stays in. Just the 6 touches, need more than that, although he was competitive in the ruck itself and did lay 6 tackles. No room for two ruckmen.


Really? I thought he was very good. Great competitor, got around the ground, a couple of good marks worked hard at the throw ins.


Despite a good game, very competitive, still only got 6 touches, Kreuzer triples that. We can't play them both. Not possible with McKay and Casboult too. If Kreuzer plays Phillips spends alot of time up forward, which isn't a great thing, especially with McKay and Casboult there too. Remember what a disaster it was in 2016 with we played both Kreuzer and Phillips? Both struggled big time. Kreuzer lone ruck, different player.

Phillips certainly a decent back-up but hard to play him when Kreuzer's fit.

That's the second time you have posted that. if you think the team or the structure is the same as it was in 2016, that either Phillips or Kreuzer is the same player he was in 2016 then you have your head in the sand. Back then Kreuzer was first ruck and Phillips the back up. This time they would o it in reverse to let Kreuzer look after the forward structure and relieve Phillips in the ruck.
Casboult isn't the future. he's the present for the present. Neither is Kreuzer, by the way. He is on his last frail legs. Yes he's a warrior but that doesn't make him jump any higher or tap any straighter.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:12 am 
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Great post Sin City agree entirely

Injury list is killing us at the moment when you tally it up


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:12 am 
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Sin City wrote:
Loved Dow's first quarter, taste of things to come. Play him all year and he'll be a star after another pre-season.

Harry McKay. Great to see his game.

Really encouraging signs from Curnow, LOB, Fisher.

Philips did some great things. His tackling and marking was very good. Happy to keep him in and give Kreuzer as long as he needs to get back to 100%.

Played a bit more (but not too much) defensive style this week, more physical pressure and intensity. Full credit to Bolton for realising a change was needed, we played a lot better as a result.

Depth is being tested with all these injuries but I'd really rather quite a few other blokes in over O'Shea. Struggling to see where Silvagni will fit while all of McKay, Curnow and Casboult are in the team.

I still think there's an AFL player in Kerridge. Gives everything for all four quarters.

SPS is feeling the lack of a decent pre-season I reckon. Will be a star though and he's getting good AFL experience.

For me, faith restored in the coach and most importantly it's another more AFL experience for Dow, LOB, SPS, Fisher, Curnow, Silvagni, McKay, Garlett.

Worth mentioning who wasn't available again too. Murphy, Docherty, Kreuzer, Marchbank, Weitering, Williamson, Kennedy, Lang, Byrne, Pickett. Will make a massive difference when we have those guys back.


Very good post.
Lots to like. Dow had some fantastic moments and Fisher is special. Some of his tackling should put the bigger bodies to shame.
O'Brien was better although he too often goes to ground when contact is approaching. Yesterday it cost us a couple of costly contests. Something small for the coaches to get out of his game.

With the players missing, it was a great effort. Well done to Bolts and co for sticking to the course.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:15 am 
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Also don't see any reason for playing OShea is terrible and cost us multiple goals with disposal errors fumbling and shocking decision making
Surely there is another on the list who is better or potentially better than him


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Note the experience thrown in to the backline and the young mid / fwd...

Defence largely: Simmo, Jones, Rowe, Mullett, Thomas (large stretches), Plowman...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:45 am 
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I like Dow. Rioli lined him up......Paddy sensed contact was imminent, and braced himself. Rioli finished up on the deck !
''Footy instinct'', you can't teach that, you've either got it or you haven't.
Impressive !

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I like Dow. Rioli lined him up......Paddy sensed contact was imminent, and braced himself. Rioli finished up on the deck !
''Footy instinct'', you can't teach that, you've either got it or you haven't.
Impressive !

Was one of my favourite moments from yesterday.

So used to seeing our players buckle and/or get injured after a hit like that.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:56 am 
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I still think there's an AFL player in Kerridg.




If there is we might only find out who that player is during the AFL’s “Rainbow - Not that there is anything wrong with that Round”.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:03 am 
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Also don't see any reason for playing OShea is terrible and cost us multiple goals with disposal errors fumbling and shocking decision making
Surely there is another on the list who is better or potentially better than him



Would be replaced by Williamson long term.

Probably getting a game due to injuries, but he was woeful last night.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:05 am 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
jim wrote:
Taff wrote:
jim wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Better effort cant ask for more than that
Not before time
Mckay stays
Is Fisher eligible for NRS
Casboult is a lazy footballer
Phillips stays in
We are killing Cripps
Late time goals killed us


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Not sure Phillips stays in. Just the 6 touches, need more than that, although he was competitive in the ruck itself and did lay 6 tackles. No room for two ruckmen.


Really? I thought he was very good. Great competitor, got around the ground, a couple of good marks worked hard at the throw ins.


Despite a good game, very competitive, still only got 6 touches, Kreuzer triples that. We can't play them both. Not possible with McKay and Casboult too. If Kreuzer plays Phillips spends alot of time up forward, which isn't a great thing, especially with McKay and Casboult there too. Remember what a disaster it was in 2016 with we played both Kreuzer and Phillips? Both struggled big time. Kreuzer lone ruck, different player.

Phillips certainly a decent back-up but hard to play him when Kreuzer's fit.

That's the second time you have posted that.




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:21 am 
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Note the experience thrown in to the backline and the young mid / fwd...

Defence largely: Simmo, Jones, Rowe, Mullett, Thomas (large stretches), Plowman...

Yes, we got the balance right. Of experience and youth. Of equal importance we got the right spirit. All of those players had a hunger to win the ball. I honestly do not want Murph back until he is able to perform at or near his best both mentally and physically. I'm starting to see how much an inspired Captain can lift a team. I swear there was a moment when Cripps bursting out of the centre morphed into Judd.
When I see that plus Charlie plus Mc.Kay..then Dow and Fisher ...I can't help but renew my patience.
The other one who needs to renew mentally is Weitering. As a club we should be able to bring out the absolute best in all types of players. Especially our introverts. If they aren't improving we should look at the support staff in both psychologists and also the teaching style of our line coaches. It may be that the coaches need training in how to relate to different personality types.

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Loved Dow's first quarter, taste of things to come. Play him all year and he'll be a star after another pre-season.

Harry McKay. Great to see his game.

Really encouraging signs from Curnow, LOB, Fisher.

Philips did some great things. His tackling and marking was very good. Happy to keep him in and give Kreuzer as long as he needs to get back to 100%.

Played a bit more (but not too much) defensive style this week, more physical pressure and intensity. Full credit to Bolton for realising a change was needed, we played a lot better as a result.

Depth is being tested with all these injuries but I'd really rather quite a few other blokes in over O'Shea. Struggling to see where Silvagni will fit while all of McKay, Curnow and Casboult are in the team.

I still think there's an AFL player in Kerridge. Gives everything for all four quarters.

SPS is feeling the lack of a decent pre-season I reckon. Will be a star though and he's getting good AFL experience.

For me, faith restored in the coach and most importantly it's another more AFL experience for Dow, LOB, SPS, Fisher, Curnow, Silvagni, McKay, Garlett.

Worth mentioning who wasn't available again too. Murphy, Docherty, Kreuzer, Marchbank, Weitering, Williamson, Kennedy, Lang, Byrne, Pickett. Will make a massive difference when we have those guys back.


Very good post.
Lots to like. Dow had some fantastic moments and Fisher is special. Some of his tackling should put the bigger bodies to shame.
O'Brien was better although he too often goes to ground when contact is approaching. Yesterday it cost us a couple of costly contests. Something small for the coaches to get out of his game.

With the players missing, it was a great effort. Well done to Bolts and co for sticking to the course.


Thought O'Brien was good as well but did notice a couple of efforts like you highlight. It's ok now but won't be acceptable. I think he can fix it because shortly after almost having his neck broken (that was ugly stuff) he went hard as hell at the next contest.

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bluegirl72 wrote:
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Note the experience thrown in to the backline and the young mid / fwd...

Defence largely: Simmo, Jones, Rowe, Mullett, Thomas (large stretches), Plowman...

Yes, we got the balance right. Of experience and youth. Of equal importance we got the right spirit. All of those players had a hunger to win the ball. I honestly do not want Murph back until he is able to perform at or near his best both mentally and physically. I'm starting to see how much an inspired Captain can lift a team. I swear there was a moment when Cripps bursting out of the centre morphed into Judd.
When I see that plus Charlie plus Mc.Kay..then Dow and Fisher ...I can't help but renew my patience.
The other one who needs to renew mentally is Weitering. As a club we should be able to bring out the absolute best in all types of players. Especially our introverts. If they aren't improving we should look at the support staff in both psychologists and also the teaching style of our line coaches. It may be that the coaches need training in how to relate to different personality types.

This is why Murphy being captain does my head in so much.

People need leaders. They look to them for inspiration. Having a weak one isn’t just a case of missing out on having a strong one, you’re actually creating a negative effect where the players look to their captain and get nothing back. That’s completely dispiriting!

Making an introvert captain is one of the dumbest things this club has ever done. I can’t think of a single instance where it’s worked.

Cripps would be fine but I still want Doc. The club needs an injection of intelligence and he’s comfortably the smartest bloke on the list.

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