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R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
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Author:  johnny [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
just want to give a thumbs up to ed curnow for his game on saturday.

the man had a plate inserted into his larynix last year.... personally i have never heard of that before.

ed is a hardcore machine and i'm glad any time he runs out there.
Author:  99prelim [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
johnny wrote:
just want to give a thumbs up to ed curnow for his game on saturday.

the man had a plate inserted into his larynix last year.... personally i have never heard of that before.

ed is a hardcore machine and i'm glad any time he runs out there.


And speaking of...after what happened to Ed, the AFL should introduce the rule that if you fend off and it makes contact with neck or head, it needs to be looked at, not just be a free kick
Author:  dannyboy [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
99prelim wrote:
johnny wrote:
just want to give a thumbs up to ed curnow for his game on saturday.

the man had a plate inserted into his larynix last year.... personally i have never heard of that before.

ed is a hardcore machine and i'm glad any time he runs out there.


And speaking of...after what happened to Ed, the AFL should introduce the rule that if you fend off and it makes contact with neck or head, it needs to be looked at, not just be a free kick


will happen when Carlton draft a fend-off machine.
Author:  The Normal One [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:08 pm ]
Post subject:  R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
Interesting we had an older and more experienced team against GC. Only just, but being young isn’t an excuse at present. Having a below average senior pool is a problem.
Author:  Sin City [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
Looking at individuals isn't going to tell us much about this one. The team and the coaches were going out there for an exercise in ball movement while Gold Coast were hell bent on smothering us and getting extra numbers to every contest. Out pressured us for almost the entire game of the early part of the second and third quarters.

The team that's winning the pressure battle always looks more skillful, that's why guys like Lyons, Holman and Harbrow looked like better kicks than Mullett, Weitering and Murphy. More time and space to execute.

Plenty of teams are now following Richmond and applying full on forward pressure and getting extra numbers to the contest. We'll need to bring Richmond levels of intensity every week just to compete.

This is not a drop/sack everyone situation, there's some great talent on our list. This is a lesson for the coaches and players that they have to bring more intensity and defensive pressure than their opponents every week or they'll be made to look second rate.
Author:  99prelim [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
dannyboy wrote:
99prelim wrote:
johnny wrote:
just want to give a thumbs up to ed curnow for his game on saturday.

the man had a plate inserted into his larynix last year.... personally i have never heard of that before.

ed is a hardcore machine and i'm glad any time he runs out there.


And speaking of...after what happened to Ed, the AFL should introduce the rule that if you fend off and it makes contact with neck or head, it needs to be looked at, not just be a free kick


will happen when Carlton draft a fend-off machine.


But of course, that will just be a coincidence DB

Seriously, the damage that can be caused by a palm (the bit closest to the wrist) smashing into the windpipe can be catastrophic
Author:  Stefchook [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
Sin City wrote:
Looking at individuals isn't going to tell us much about this one. The team and the coaches were going out there for an exercise in ball movement while Gold Coast were hell bent on smothering us and getting extra numbers to every contest. Out pressured us for almost the entire game of the early part of the second and third quarters.

The team that's winning the pressure battle always looks more skillful, that's why guys like Lyons, Holman and Harbrow looked like better kicks than Mullett, Weitering and Murphy. More time and space to execute.

Plenty of teams are now following Richmond and applying full on forward pressure and getting extra numbers to the contest. We'll need to bring Richmond levels of intensity every week just to compete.

This is not a drop/sack everyone situation, there's some great talent on our list. This is a lesson for the coaches and players that they have to bring more intensity and defensive pressure than their opponents every week or they'll be made to look second rate.


Good post. :thumbsup:
Author:  chubbyruss [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
Coaches Votes v Gold Coast

10 Lynch
8 Lyons
4 Martin
3 Swallow
2 Holman
2 Witts
1 Ed Curnow
Author:  MPH78 [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
Stefchook wrote:
Sin City wrote:
Looking at individuals isn't going to tell us much about this one. The team and the coaches were going out there for an exercise in ball movement while Gold Coast were hell bent on smothering us and getting extra numbers to every contest. Out pressured us for almost the entire game of the early part of the second and third quarters.

The team that's winning the pressure battle always looks more skillful, that's why guys like Lyons, Holman and Harbrow looked like better kicks than Mullett, Weitering and Murphy. More time and space to execute.

Plenty of teams are now following Richmond and applying full on forward pressure and getting extra numbers to the contest. We'll need to bring Richmond levels of intensity every week just to compete.

This is not a drop/sack everyone situation, there's some great talent on our list. This is a lesson for the coaches and players that they have to bring more intensity and defensive pressure than their opponents every week or they'll be made to look second rate.


Good post. :thumbsup:


Yep great post. Though highly troubling that our coaches and players need reminding of the prerequisite defensive pressure and intensity required. Should be a given. What right have we got to be so poor in these areas? Bothers me that our group mindset/attitude can be so far off the mark.

Our response this week will be telling, hopefully in the positive.
Author:  Stefchook [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
chubbyruss wrote:
Coaches Votes v Gold Coast

10 Lynch
8 Lyons
4 Martin
3 Swallow
2 Holman
2 Witts
1 Ed Curnow


Only 1 player in the top 7. Says a bit.
Author:  kezza [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
Stefchook wrote:
chubbyruss wrote:
Coaches Votes v Gold Coast

10 Lynch
8 Lyons
4 Martin
3 Swallow
2 Holman
2 Witts
1 Ed Curnow


Only 1 player in the top 7. Says a bit.

Holman got votes too.
Author:  Stefchook [ Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R2: Carlton Vs Gold Coast Post Match Discussion
We've had 2 absolute stinkers this year. And for me, this one was far worse than the game against North (despite the margin). I suspect there'd be far less doom and gloom if we'd managed a single win. And despite GC's improvement, there is no way we should have lost this game. This was before our injuries had become endemic. But we were defensively incompetent. Our ball handling and use were deplorable. I think both the playing group and coaches were still basking in the 'light' of our preseason and round 1 performances.
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