He's almost at full Hendo.

Just read the review of the game in the Age. "Their (Carlton) skill errors were almost unfathomable". The article goes on to talk of being unable to hit a target "whether because of sloppy kicking, dropped marks or through other turnovers".

What does this say of our club? Surely these players can't have reached the pinnacle of Australian Rules Football without the ability to kick, handball or hold marks. The problem has to be between the ears. Sure, players aren't robots, they make mistakes, their performances will vary, but why oh why have we the supporters been bemoaning our players skill levels such as were on display against GC for so long? Loser mentality? Bad coaching? I don't know, but something is seriously wrong within our club. This has been going on for way, way too long. High draft picks for years now, and think of all the ex Carlton players forging careers at other clubs. I despair.

He's having personal issues with leather.

A little side not3 but, I’m amazed how many other teams can adjust to new coaches game plans over 1 summer but not us.

Cant take our own medicine.Can dish it out but can't take it.Defensive pressure I'm talking about.Goldie played the sort of footy we have been playing since Bolton arrived.Those fumbles weren't skill errors,they were a reaction to immense pressure..........all is not lost if we rediscover that and play to our limitations..........talk of dropping young guys is ludicrous coz they are our future.They were early picks for a reason...............reckon if we revert to our manic defensive type pressure game we can salvage something from the season.

By the way, I am always ready to cut Murphy some slack. Twelve years of being unfairly roughed up, bumped, shoved, dumped, hit, with little to no protection from his team mates and I for one can recognize why he looks after himself first nowadays.

Maybe not as captain but he is still one of our best.

I love Ed Curnow's effort and application but we need to stop getting ourselves into a situation where he is the one receiving the handball and delivering inside 50. He just isn't a good enough kick (he's not alone there) to continually find himself in that position. He should be the one getting the handball out to blokes like Fisher and Murphy (when he isn't dropping it at blokes' feet) for them to be kicking it.

I remember people saying the same about Fisher last year. They were wrong then and you're wrong now about Polson, the problem was not a second gamer who laid more tackles than all but 3 other guys out there.

I feel for Weitering. Parked at FF first half. Delivery abysmal.

I'm really shocked to be sitting here. I really liked Gibbs as a footballer, but this board told me he was a rubbish leader, soft over the ball and weak of mind and spirit, and we would be a far better side without him. Then he gets traded and we still can't beat Gold Coast. They got rid of Ablett and if worked for them. It's all very confusing.

Not from me.
Fisher is quick, elusive and has shown a lot in every game he's played.
Has better game sense than Polson from what Ive seen

https://twitter.com/SunFootyShow/status ... 6171730944

It's not about other sides, it's about us and how we train, play and assert ourselves.
We were improving, building and growing but this year we have totally failed in our improvement gain from previous years and have totally lost direction with the selections, structures and personnel and it's showing in an astounding manner.



When the young players don't chase, tackle and at the very least apply pressure and exert themselves you make an example and teach them it's not acceptable, because they are the future.
Do you think the ones breaking their nut are going to stick around and play with the ones been gifted games and waltzing around the club as if they are the anointed ones?
Everyone talks about a change of culture but are afraid of hurting a couple of ego's, now is the time before it's too late again.