bluechampion wrote:
I'd be looking at the following:
Trade Casboult.
It's pretty clear that we've reached the stage where he's simply back-up. He might appeal to a team that needs someone who can play key-forward and is a handy second ruck. Gold Coast and Freo are the stand-out candidates. I wouldn't expect heaps back for him, but I'd package him up with a pick to improve our draft position perhaps.
Ideal scenario:
Casboult & Graham to Gold Coast
Aaron Hall to North
Braydon Preuss to GWS
Will Setterfield to Carlton
Trade Jones.
If we're actually into McGovern, then (despite actually using all the tall defenders we have due to injury) I'm not sure how he fits in. I know McGovern and he don't really play the same role, but how many blokes do you need who play their best footy as an intercept tall defender? His value is difficult to judge. Like Casboult he might be worth just as much to us as depth than we'd get for him on the market. Collingwood are most in need of a tall defender who can play from round 1.
Ideal scenario:
Jones to Collingwood for pick #49 & #52
Trade Graham.
I know, I know: Who would want him? I reckon he's done his time at CFC and needs a chance somewhere else. Apparently Gold Coast are into Anthony Miles, and this represents something similar.
Ideal scenario:
See Casboult trade.
Trade Phillips.
Bit of a tricky one. Phillips is a decent ruckman, but will always be behind Kreuzer. Even with the cloud over Kreuzer's fitness, we still have one too many 'senior' ruckmen on the list and Lobbe is older and on more cash, so we're stuck with him. Phillips has value as a ruckman who could come into any side and play from game one, and with a few clubs on the look out for rucks, we might be surprised what we can get. It might leave our ruck resources a little thin (Kreuzer, Lobbe, DeKonning), but we could look at picking someone up late in the draft.
Ideal scenario:
Phillips to St. Kilda for a future second round selection.
Trade #49 to Gold Coast for Brodie
Trade #52 to Gold Coast for Scrimshaw
Trade next year's second rounder and St. Kilda's future second-rounder for Shiel
Trade our priority pick (which I expect to be after round 1, so pick #19 / #20 or so) to Adelaide for McGovern and pick #37
I'd also look into trading our second rounders (#24 & 25) to Sydney for their pick #13 (assuming they get something like #4 or so for Hannebery and don't want to spend #13 on Blakey).
Fasolo via Free Agency and have a late-in-the-game crack at Gaff.
We could then end up with #1 (mid), #13 (mid), #37 (ruck), #65 (Silvagni), #73 (Hickmott), Shiel, Setterfield, Brodie, Scrimshaw, McGovern, Fasolo, (Gaff?)
We lose Casboult, Jones, Graham, Phillips, #24, #25, #49, #52, priority pick (#19), next year's second-rounder and St. Kilda's future second-rounder.
That's eight players off the list (including the announced de-listed players), but potentially 11 on...
... so we'd need to cut three more players in this scenario: Kerridge, Rowe, Garlett?
Obviously this is all highly unlikely.
I admire your optimism but that's nowhere near realistic IMHO. We'll get a second rounder for Phillips yet Brodie is worth pick 49 and Scrimshaw pick 52?????
As for Graham and Casboult, they'd get us Aaron Hall, Brayden Preuss and Will Setterfields bootlaces. Like I said I admire your optimism and I think it's great that you value our players but unfortunately I think you're massively undervaluing the opposition players.
I have to be optimistic. Otherwise how could you be a Carlton supporter over the last 20 years?
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