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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:01 am 
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Wasn't overly impressed by some parts of his presser today :yikes:

Doesn't come across particularly firm.

He deferred to SOS and his team when asked about list, which is as you'd expect.
But when asked about our fixture, rather than repeating twice that "we won two games" he needs to state at every possibility that a strong Carlton is good for the AFL. Foundation club, massive (if dormant) supporter base, and (which he did mention) important rivalries that need to be nurtured.

Rather than saying that the AFL has "many levers" of support, he should be repeating that the support we need is in building a list capable of being competitive with all other sides.

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Wasn't overly impressed by some parts of his presser today :yikes:

Doesn't come across particularly firm.

He deferred to SOS and his team when asked about list, which is as you'd expect.
But when asked about our fixture, rather than repeating twice that "we won two games" he needs to state at every possibility that a strong Carlton is good for the AFL. Foundation club, massive (if dormant) supporter base, and (which he did mention) important rivalries that need to be nurtured.

Rather than saying that the AFL has "many levers" of support, he should be repeating that the support we need is in building a list capable of being competitive with all other sides.


Agreed. I think he tried to but in the wrong way by only addressing the lack of wins.


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There’s no doubting 2018 has been a tough year for our members. Our club embarked on a complete rebuild three years ago, the size of which has never been seen at Carlton. Whilst we all accepted that there would be challenges along the way, a combination of a significant list turnover, our predominantly young list profile and an unprecedented number of injuries, created the perfect storm for a disappointing outcome of only two wins for the year.

However, it’s equally important to highlight a number of positives to come out of the 2018 season. Our future looks exciting with the likes of Patrick Cripps, Charlie Curnow, Zac Fisher and Harry McKay all taking huge steps forward in 2018.

After a slow start with injury and form, Jacob Weitering, in only his third year, finished the season well and in that group of five young players, we believe we have the makings of a very strong spine for the future. Carlton members would also have liked what they saw of our first year players in Paddy Dow, Lochie O’Brien and Tom De Koning.

While not an excuse, injury cruelled the years of emerging players Lochie Plowman, Caleb Marchbank, Darcy Lang, Matthew Kennedy, Jarrod Pickett and Ciaran Byrne and the likes of David Cuningham, Tom Williamson and Harrison Macreadie, all of whom were unsighted on-field for the entire season. Our core group of senior players, including Matthew Kreuzer and Marc Murphy were also significantly hampered with injury, while All-Australian Sam Docherty did not play a single game after sustaining an ACL injury early in the 2018 pre-season.

Importantly, throughout the course of the year we were also able to extend the contracts of all our priority players, with our captain Marc Murphy, Patrick Cripps, Charlie Curnow, Tom De Koning, Paddy Dow, Zac Fisher, Patrick Kerr and Lochie O’Brien all confirming their long-term commitment to the Club. This is a real show of faith by the players in our strategy and vision for the football club.

The unprecedented spate of injuries prompted a complete review of our High Performance Department and we appointed Ernst and Young’s Graham Lowe to undertake this review in August. Graham has been a High Performance Manager across multiple sports and most recently, was the Western Bulldogs’ Head of Football in their Premiership year, giving him a solid understanding of the mechanics of a successful football department. In his expertise, Graham put forward a number of recommendations that we believe will comprehensively strengthen our High Performance department, all of which will be implemented immediately.

Recently we welcomed Brad Lloyd to Carlton as our new Head of Football. Brad’s most recent position has been as General Manager of List Management at Fremantle Football Club, where he sat on the club executive and the football sub-committee. Prior to that, he was a Player Manager with TLA for eight years. Brad also has a strong playing background, having played 11 senior games with Hawthorn Football Club and 167 senior VFL games. In addition to implementing the recommendations of our High Performance review, Brad will also thoroughly review all areas of the football department, ensuring alignment to our vision of high performance on and off the field to ultimately deliver our members sustained success.

Our players, coaches, staff and members were extremely proud of Patrick Cripps who earned his first All-Australian blazer this week. Under difficult circumstances, you could mount a case that his year was one of the great individual seasons ever by a Carlton player. He broke an all-time competition record for contested possessions and provided an outstanding example to our young on-ball brigade. We congratulate Patrick and his family on his All-Australian honour.

We farewelled four players who this week were advised their contracts will not be renewed for the 2019 season. Aaron Mullett and Cameron O’Shea alongside rookie-listed players Matthew Shaw and Jesse Glass-McCasker will depart Ikon Park, and we thank them for their contributions to the Carlton Football Club. The delistings take the Club’s initial post-season list changes to five, after veteran defender Alex Silvagni announced his retirement from AFL football last week.

I’d also like to take this opportunity to acknowledge departing Football Department staff Andrew McKay (Head of Football), Tim Clarke (Midfield Coach) and Joel Hocking (Physical Preparation Manager), all of whom have made a significant contribution to the Carlton Football Club in their own rights. We wish them all the best in their future endeavours.

President Mark LoGiudice and I also met with the AFL Commission this week. The meeting had been scheduled in for a number of months, with the Commission cycling through all 18 clubs over each 2-3 year period. The presentation focussed largely on three key areas of the business, those being; football, members and our masterplan. As is the case with all clubs, we were asked by the AFL what they could do to help us and we discussed a number of opportunities across these areas. It was agreed that the AFL would come back to us with more questions over the upcoming weeks and we will update our members about these conversations once some firm decisions have been made by the AFL.

In AFLW news, we were excited that Carlton’s inaugural father-daughter prospect, Abbie McKay, officially pulled on the Old Dark Navy Blue for the first time last weekend. The eldest daughter of 1995 premiership player and recently departed Head of Football Andrew McKay, Abbie was named in the Club’s Round 16 VFLW team.

The 17-year-old recently represented Vic Metro in the under-18 national championships on the Gold Coast and has been invited to participate in the upcoming AFLW draft combine in October. Abbie will also be playing in the under-18 exhibition match at Adelaide Oval showcasing the country’s best young talent.

We were delighted to have recently announced Chloe Dalton and Brooke Walker who will transition to the AFLW list, after signing on as rookies for the 2019 season. The talented duo has been playing for the Blues’ VFLW side this season since crossing codes from women’s rugby sevens earlier this year. A member of Australia’s history-making gold medal team at the Rio Olympics, Dalton has applied the same level of professionalism to her newfound Aussie Rules career.

Having also represented her country in the same code, Walker moved from Sydney to Melbourne in order to pursue her ambition of playing in the AFLW. We are thrilled to have both these players in the Navy Blue and look forward to watching their AFL careers develop.

Off the field, our membership broke an all-time Club record of 56,005 paid up members and I want to take this opportunity to say thank you to each and every one of you for your support of the Club. Our members are the life blood of the Club and your commitment is another true reflection of the belief in what we are doing and working towards at this Football Club.

To show our appreciation, every 2018 member who renews for season 2019 will receive a complimentary upgrade through our Biggest #BoundByBlue Thank You campaign*. We look forward to providing more detail of this upgrade campaign in the coming weeks.

Internally, we have also re-structured our membership department and have created a custom built call centre, where we are confident the team will deliver a higher level of service and continue to grow our membership number.

We are also excited to announce the launch of a new entry level coterie package in 2019 – “Legends Lounge”. The new product will offer the best reserved seats on level 2 at both the MCG and Marvel Stadium. Legends Lounge members will have access to glass-fronted rooms overlooking the ground, with an ability to purchase meals and access to private bars. Prior to each game, interviews will also be conducted with injured players, assistant coaches and key Carlton staff. A Legend of the Carlton Football Club will also join members each week in the Legends Lounge, where they will be interviewed and available for photos and autographs.

Those currently seated on level 2 (Captains Club Premium and Captains Club Reserved members) will be upgraded into this new package for free in 2019. For more information or if you are interested in this package, please call our membership team on 1300 227 586 during business hours or email membership@carltonfc.com.au.

Of equal importance has been the ongoing commitment and support from our joint AFL major partners Hyundai and Virgin Australia, who have each committed to the Club for five years, along with joint major partner of AFLW MC Labour, University Partner La Trobe University (five years) and Venue Partner Ikon Services. Finally, after their first year as a Platinum Partner, we thank CUA (Credit Union Australia) who backed the Club at a really important time and have started to resonate with our supporter base.

In more exciting off field news, we are very proud to have launched the Carlton College of Sports today. Our partnership with La Trobe University will see students spend a year at Ikon Park, studying for a higher education diploma. Practical work experiences will be offered within the existing business and students will work across football, membership, events and other areas of the Club within an elite sports environment. More information can be found at http://www.carltoncollege.com.au and I would highly recommend those students looking for a career in sport to consider applying for the program.

Our Masterplan for the re-development of Ikon Park is also coming along well. We continue to work with the Federal Government in the hope they will match the state government’s support for our plans to significantly improve the facilities available here at Ikon Park, the home of women’s football. We will continue to keep our members abreast of any news relating to this important initiative.

The Board and Management are also putting the final touches on the Club’s new strategic plan. It is likely that this document will be completed by the end of the year and we look forward to sharing the Club’s strategic priorities and key targets with our members.

On behalf of President Mark LoGiudice and I, we once again thank you for your ongoing support of the Blues.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:03 pm 
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Excellent update.

Only one concerning thing for me is the retention of Barker, otherwise good work from Liddle.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:48 pm 
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Well I got my wish, my Captains Club premium membership now Legends Lounge with some perks. :thumbsup: Beats that scarf.

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Too much focus on non-core issues like a college ofCarlton and a women’s team. Couldn’t give a flying fig on either issue to be honest. Put more energy into the only element that truly matters-the football team.

He should be out there campaigning to get a better financial dividend from the AFL. Hawthorn got $35 million as a result of AFL decision to give them sole ownership of Tasmania. Will that $$ be part of an “equalisation” measure? Can it be shared amongst the clubs?

Last year StKilda got 19.4 million in dividend from AFL
Carlton should be getting more than StKilda in a dividend. Liddle should be campaigning for that, or hand over keys to AFL and get them to do job properly

If the draft is such a panacea to all Carlton’s woes, why hasn’t one single Carlton player won a rising star award?
Collingwood’s pick 7 in Stephenson better than pick 1 or pick 2 ?

The AFL tells us though that the draft solves all problems. Yeah, right.


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Pretty sure that's what he's referring to here
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President Mark LoGiudice and I also met with the AFL Commission this week. The meeting had been scheduled in for a number of months, with the Commission cycling through all 18 clubs over each 2-3 year period. The presentation focussed largely on three key areas of the business, those being; football, members and our masterplan. As is the case with all clubs, we were asked by the AFL what they could do to help us and we discussed a number of opportunities across these areas. It was agreed that the AFL would come back to us with more questions over the upcoming weeks and we will update our members about these conversations once some firm decisions have been made by the AFL.


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“The AFL has a number of equalisation levers ... special assistance can take a number of forms,” Liddle said on Friday.

“Whether that be financial assistance, whether that be fixture assistance, whether that be specific football assistance or master plan assistance.”

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:16 am 
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SUppose some people are never happy.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:21 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
Pretty sure that's what he's referring to here
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President Mark LoGiudice and I also met with the AFL Commission this week. The meeting had been scheduled in for a number of months, with the Commission cycling through all 18 clubs over each 2-3 year period. The presentation focussed largely on three key areas of the business, those being; football, members and our masterplan. As is the case with all clubs, we were asked by the AFL what they could do to help us and we discussed a number of opportunities across these areas. It was agreed that the AFL would come back to us with more questions over the upcoming weeks and we will update our members about these conversations once some firm decisions have been made by the AFL.


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“The AFL has a number of equalisation levers ... special assistance can take a number of forms,” Liddle said on Friday.

“Whether that be financial assistance, whether that be fixture assistance, whether that be specific football assistance or master plan assistance.”


It’s all talk. When it comes to the final decision Carlton will be considered one of the Big 4 cause 30 years ago Carlton was once relevant.

Dividend should reflect the FACT that the club is hemorrhaging under this system. The AFL helped to destroy the jewel in their crown-which is the Carlton Football Club- they should pick up the tab and increase the dividend for all the years they have robbed and thieved from the club.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:28 am 
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Donstuie wrote:

We are also excited to announce the launch of a new entry level coterie package in 2019 – “Legends Lounge”. The new product will offer the best reserved seats on level 2 at both the MCG and Marvel Stadium. Legends Lounge members will have access to glass-fronted rooms overlooking the ground, with an ability to purchase meals and access to private bars. Prior to each game, interviews will also be conducted with injured players, assistant coaches and key Carlton staff. A Legend of the Carlton Football Club will also join members each week in the Legends Lounge, where they will be interviewed and available for photos and autographs.

Those currently seated on level 2 (Captains Club Premium and Captains Club Reserved members) will be upgraded into this new package for free in 2019. For more information or if you are interested in this package, please call our membership team on 1300 227 586 during business hours or email membership@carltonfc.com.au.


Am i the only one that is very sceptical with this ... as a long time captains club premium/social club member ... i pay close to a $1000 a year to go watch carlton, and it sounds like what i get now, is about to go up substantially as a "Coterie package" if i want to keep my current arrangement.

im a 20+ year member, and ive always look at the membership cost (though expensive) as my contribution to the club, but i will be somewhat annoyed, that after all this time, we finally start making the right decisions and moving forward, that club will ask for more money for the same thing. I can understand my current arrangements going up i.e inflation, but i get the distinct impression i am going to have to pay alot more for what im already getting.

any else have more information on this?


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So, on the one hand you complain that they aren't asking the AFL for financial assistance, then when it turns out that they are "it's all talk".

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Donstuie wrote:
Pretty sure that's what he's referring to here
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President Mark LoGiudice and I also met with the AFL Commission this week. The meeting had been scheduled in for a number of months, with the Commission cycling through all 18 clubs over each 2-3 year period. The presentation focussed largely on three key areas of the business, those being; football, members and our masterplan. As is the case with all clubs, we were asked by the AFL what they could do to help us and we discussed a number of opportunities across these areas. It was agreed that the AFL would come back to us with more questions over the upcoming weeks and we will update our members about these conversations once some firm decisions have been made by the AFL.


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“The AFL has a number of equalisation levers ... special assistance can take a number of forms,” Liddle said on Friday.

“Whether that be financial assistance, whether that be fixture assistance, whether that be specific football assistance or master plan assistance.”


AFL looking at Clubs Masterplans.

Saints presentation would’ve be fun to watch :-)


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ScottSaunders2 wrote:
Donstuie wrote:

We are also excited to announce the launch of a new entry level coterie package in 2019 – “Legends Lounge”. The new product will offer the best reserved seats on level 2 at both the MCG and Marvel Stadium. Legends Lounge members will have access to glass-fronted rooms overlooking the ground, with an ability to purchase meals and access to private bars. Prior to each game, interviews will also be conducted with injured players, assistant coaches and key Carlton staff. A Legend of the Carlton Football Club will also join members each week in the Legends Lounge, where they will be interviewed and available for photos and autographs.

Those currently seated on level 2 (Captains Club Premium and Captains Club Reserved members) will be upgraded into this new package for free in 2019. For more information or if you are interested in this package, please call our membership team on 1300 227 586 during business hours or email membership@carltonfc.com.au.


Am i the only one that is very sceptical with this ... as a long time captains club premium/social club member ... i pay close to a $1000 a year to go watch carlton, and it sounds like what i get now, is about to go up substantially as a "Coterie package" if i want to keep my current arrangement.

im a 20+ year member, and ive always look at the membership cost (though expensive) as my contribution to the club, but i will be somewhat annoyed, that after all this time, we finally start making the right decisions and moving forward, that club will ask for more money for the same thing. I can understand my current arrangements going up i.e inflation, but i get the distinct impression i am going to have to pay alot more for what im already getting.

any else have more information on this?


I haven't seen the details on this. I called and asked yesterday and no specifics were clear as yet. Sounds like our price won't change nor will our seats, but we'll get access into that Visy area at the G behind our seats, and similar at Marvel. It's a nice addition, so you can get out of the cold, plus have a coffee/drink or a bite. I don't want coaches in there pre-game, I want them with our players where they should be. Same with injured players - they should be down there with their team mates supporting and contributing in any way they can.

Still think a membership like this should come with an end-of-preseason function at the club. Like a BBQ with the squad and the coaches... chance for autographs and a proper meet and greet or even guest access to the rooms after certain games. Even behind the rope. That's a real premium experience.

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“Whether that be financial assistance, whether that be fixture assistance, whether that be specific football assistance or master plan assistance.”


Pretty sure this is just "we can make up any crap we want and feed it to the clubs and fans as assistance", assistance


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So, on the one hand you complain that they aren't asking the AFL for financial assistance, then when it turns out that they are "it's all talk".

Righto

Dude, Norf Melbourne something something

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robertbb wrote:
ScottSaunders2 wrote:
Donstuie wrote:

We are also excited to announce the launch of a new entry level coterie package in 2019 – “Legends Lounge”. The new product will offer the best reserved seats on level 2 at both the MCG and Marvel Stadium. Legends Lounge members will have access to glass-fronted rooms overlooking the ground, with an ability to purchase meals and access to private bars. Prior to each game, interviews will also be conducted with injured players, assistant coaches and key Carlton staff. A Legend of the Carlton Football Club will also join members each week in the Legends Lounge, where they will be interviewed and available for photos and autographs.

Those currently seated on level 2 (Captains Club Premium and Captains Club Reserved members) will be upgraded into this new package for free in 2019. For more information or if you are interested in this package, please call our membership team on 1300 227 586 during business hours or email membership@carltonfc.com.au.


Am i the only one that is very sceptical with this ... as a long time captains club premium/social club member ... i pay close to a $1000 a year to go watch carlton, and it sounds like what i get now, is about to go up substantially as a "Coterie package" if i want to keep my current arrangement.

im a 20+ year member, and ive always look at the membership cost (though expensive) as my contribution to the club, but i will be somewhat annoyed, that after all this time, we finally start making the right decisions and moving forward, that club will ask for more money for the same thing. I can understand my current arrangements going up i.e inflation, but i get the distinct impression i am going to have to pay alot more for what im already getting.

any else have more information on this?


I haven't seen the details on this. I called and asked yesterday and no specifics were clear as yet. Sounds like our price won't change nor will our seats, but we'll get access into that Visy area at the G behind our seats, and similar at Marvel. It's a nice addition, so you can get out of the cold, plus have a coffee/drink or a bite. I don't want coaches in there pre-game, I want them with our players where they should be. Same with injured players - they should be down there with their team mates supporting and contributing in any way they can.

Still think a membership like this should come with an end-of-preseason function at the club. Like a BBQ with the squad and the coaches... chance for autographs and a proper meet and greet or even guest access to the rooms after certain games. Even behind the rope. That's a real premium experience.


i think the captain clubs premium reserved is an awesome membership. Our Home seats at Etihad are amazing, as are our home seats at the MCG. Our away seats could be better, but we are the away side so i dont expect to much from it.

like your ideas alot. i used to go to the social clubs (enjoy a drink during the game at the top of the SC bar back in the day at Princess Park) but found the social club rather boring at Ethihad. I would be far more interested in the end of season function at the club with the players and staff like you have suggested.

i think they should seriously look at events for members with continutal years etc.. as well ... i.e. 20+ Club, 30+ Club etc..

i also think, the club should be reluctant to sell the seats around us as well ... we pay an absolute premium for home seats and it shits me to tears to have supporters from other clubs etc.. end up sitting in and around us, especially this year ...


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The unprecedented spate of injuries prompted a complete review of our High Performance Department and we appointed Ernst and Young’s Graham Lowe to undertake this review in August. Graham has been a High Performance Manager across multiple sports and most recently, was the Western Bulldogs’ Head of Football in their Premiership year, giving him a solid understanding of the mechanics of a successful football department. In his expertise, Graham put forward a number of recommendations that we believe will comprehensively strengthen our High Performance department, all of which will be implemented immediately.


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I’d also like to take this opportunity to acknowledge departing Football Department staff Andrew McKay (Head of Football), Tim Clarke (Midfield Coach) and Joel Hocking (Physical Preparation Manager), all of whom have made a significant contribution to the Carlton Football Club in their own rights. We wish them all the best in their future endeavours.


These two sections were the ones that stood out for me.

Hopefully 2019 will shine brighter.


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ScottSaunders2 wrote:
Donstuie wrote:

We are also excited to announce the launch of a new entry level coterie package in 2019 – “Legends Lounge”. The new product will offer the best reserved seats on level 2 at both the MCG and Marvel Stadium. Legends Lounge members will have access to glass-fronted rooms overlooking the ground, with an ability to purchase meals and access to private bars. Prior to each game, interviews will also be conducted with injured players, assistant coaches and key Carlton staff. A Legend of the Carlton Football Club will also join members each week in the Legends Lounge, where they will be interviewed and available for photos and autographs.

Those currently seated on level 2 (Captains Club Premium and Captains Club Reserved members) will be upgraded into this new package for free in 2019. For more information or if you are interested in this package, please call our membership team on 1300 227 586 during business hours or email membership@carltonfc.com.au.



Am i the only one that is very sceptical with this ... as a long time captains club premium/social club member ... i pay close to a $1000 a year to go watch carlton, and it sounds like what i get now, is about to go up substantially as a "Coterie package" if i want to keep my current arrangement.

im a 20+ year member, and ive always look at the membership cost (though expensive) as my contribution to the club, but i will be somewhat annoyed, that after all this time, we finally start making the right decisions and moving forward, that club will ask for more money for the same thing. I can understand my current arrangements going up i.e inflation, but i get the distinct impression i am going to have to pay alot more for what im already getting.

any else have more information on this?


I must admit when I first read this I thought are we being prepared for a change the following year that to retain our current seats we have to upgrade to this new package. However if the goal is to give all on level 2 (Captains Club Premium and Captains Club Reserved members) a taste of what will be on offer the following season which we can choose to take up or remain in our current seats and not upgrade then I am all for that.


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