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| Author: | Donstuie [ Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Fixing our goalkicking |
This shit's gone on for years and has cost us so many games in that time (and will more yet). Until we sort this out we aren't going anywhere. So what's the problem and how do we fix it? Is it mental? Confidence? Poor coaching? |
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| Author: | Scotty12000 [ Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
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| Author: | Blue Sombrero [ Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Donstuie wrote: This shit's gone on for years and has cost us so many games in that time (and will more yet). Until we sort this out we aren't going anywhere. So what's the problem and how do we fix it? Is it mental? Confidence? Poor coaching? At least Casboult is kicking straight. I we can only build a forward line around him we will be fine. |
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| Author: | bluedog [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Goalkicking-related: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-08-16/fantastic-five-fevs-best-moments Was Fev removed permanently from TalkingPlayers? |
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| Author: | Wojee [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
bluedog wrote: Goalkicking-related: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-08-16/fantastic-five-fevs-best-moments Was Fev removed permanently from TalkingPlayers? He's actually got a whole (now locked) subforum. viewforum.php?f=35 His TalkingPlayers thread is here: viewforum.php?f=23 |
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| Author: | bluedog [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Wojee wrote: bluedog wrote: Goalkicking-related: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-08-16/fantastic-five-fevs-best-moments Was Fev removed permanently from TalkingPlayers? He's actually got a whole (now locked) subforum. viewforum.php?f=35 His TalkingPlayers thread is here: viewforum.php?f=23  Knew about the locked Fev forum - unaware of mark 1... |
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| Author: | Rexy [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
bluedog wrote: Wojee wrote: bluedog wrote: Goalkicking-related: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-08-16/fantastic-five-fevs-best-moments Was Fev removed permanently from TalkingPlayers? He's actually got a whole (now locked) subforum. viewforum.php?f=35 His TalkingPlayers thread is here: viewforum.php?f=23 Knew about the locked Fev forum - unaware of mark 1... back in current talkingplayers - viewtopic.php?f=36&t=10085&p=282021#p282021 |
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| Author: | bondiblue [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
!. Improved Midfield delivery ....another preseason for increased output for SPS Cripps Fisher Cuningham Boekhurst...maybe one of Docherty Byrne or Williamson to be released into the midfield. Pick 1 or 2. 2. Forward pressure ....speed in forwardline ala 3 Amigos helps to keep ball in our forwardline...hopefully Pickett, Cunners Murphy spend time forward 3. Multi targets ....another preseason for McKay Silvagni Curnow Kerr...we wont be reliant on one Levi Casboult I think its going to start happening next year just because of the above is within our grasp. I'm hoping we also see additional leg speed in the midfield group from a great preseason and trade...Kelly, well Pickett, Cunners and SPS will help with that. |
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| Author: | verbs [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Big steps this year. 2016 22 Wright 18 Casboult Gibbs 17 Everitt 16 Armfield 13 Lamb 10 Cripps 2017 (so far) 31 Casboult 29 Wright 19 J Silvagni 17 C Curnow 16 Gibbs 11 Murphy 10 Kreuzer Petrevski-Seton |
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| Author: | Blue Sombrero [ Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Did I read or hear somewhere that Murphy has only kicked 8 this year? |
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| Author: | Crippa [ Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Blue Sombrero wrote: Did I read or hear somewhere that Murphy has only kicked 8 this year? 11 so far this year over 20 games. 7 last year but only played 10 games. 7 in 2015 in 19 games. |
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| Author: | GWS [ Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Blue Sombrero wrote: Did I read or hear somewhere that Murphy has only kicked 8 this year? Plus at least five he's dribbled along the ground to a guy waiting in the goal square. |
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| Author: | Blue Sombrero [ Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Crippa wrote: Blue Sombrero wrote: Did I read or hear somewhere that Murphy has only kicked 8 this year? 11 so far this year over 20 games. 7 last year but only played 10 games. 7 in 2015 in 19 games. Thanks. Not many for a hard running mid. |
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| Author: | Scotty12000 [ Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Blue Sombrero wrote: Crippa wrote: Blue Sombrero wrote: Did I read or hear somewhere that Murphy has only kicked 8 this year? 11 so far this year over 20 games. 7 last year but only played 10 games. 7 in 2015 in 19 games. Thanks. Not many for a hard running mid. Perhaps we also need to look at goal assists, 1%ers etc to see the changing role Murphy has been playing this year. Goals attached to his name probably doesn't tell the complete picture. |
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| Author: | Crippa [ Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Scotty12000 wrote: Blue Sombrero wrote: Crippa wrote: Blue Sombrero wrote: Did I read or hear somewhere that Murphy has only kicked 8 this year? 11 so far this year over 20 games. 7 last year but only played 10 games. 7 in 2015 in 19 games. Thanks. Not many for a hard running mid. Perhaps we also need to look at goal assists, 1%ers etc to see the changing role Murphy has been playing this year. Goals attached to his name probably doesn't tell the complete picture. He's never been a high scoring mid. Probably not his role either. Last two games have been good from him i think. |
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| Author: | Stefchook [ Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
He's been playing more inside since Cripps (and Ed) went down. |
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| Author: | Crippa [ Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Ok here goes. There's probably more holes in this than......I duno something with a lot of holes......Swiss cheese I guess......so feel free to tear it apart. No offence will be taken. There were 5,336 goals kicked in the comp last year. With 4,660 so far this year we are on track for a total of 5,141. That's 195 less goals in total than last year or an average of 11 goals per team less. So it's safe to say across the comp teams are scoring less. Carlton kicked 224 goals last season and have kicked 212 so far which extrapolates to a projected season total this year of 233. So while the comp has kicked on average 11 goals less per club, we have in fact kicked 9 goals more. What does that mean? Probably not much. Haha. 
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| Author: | GWS [ Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Crippa wrote: Ok here goes. There's probably more holes in this than......I duno something with a lot of holes......Swiss cheese I guess......so feel free to tear it apart. No offence will be taken. There were 5,336 goals kicked in the comp last year. With 4,660 so far this year we are on track for a total of 5,141. That's 195 less goals in total than last year or an average of 11 goals per team less. So it's safe to say across the comp teams are scoring less. Carlton kicked 224 goals last season and have kicked 212 so far which extrapolates to a projected season total this year of 233. So while the comp has kicked on average 11 goals less per club, we have in fact kicked 9 goals more. What does that mean? Probably not much. Haha. Yeah but only wins and losses matter... |
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| Author: | Crippa [ Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
GWS wrote: Crippa wrote: Ok here goes. There's probably more holes in this than......I duno something with a lot of holes......Swiss cheese I guess......so feel free to tear it apart. No offence will be taken. There were 5,336 goals kicked in the comp last year. With 4,660 so far this year we are on track for a total of 5,141. That's 195 less goals in total than last year or an average of 11 goals per team less. So it's safe to say across the comp teams are scoring less. Carlton kicked 224 goals last season and have kicked 212 so far which extrapolates to a projected season total this year of 233. So while the comp has kicked on average 11 goals less per club, we have in fact kicked 9 goals more. What does that mean? Probably not much. Haha. Yeah but only wins and losses matter... 
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| Author: | Blue Sombrero [ Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fixing our goalkicking |
Crippa wrote: Ok here goes. There's probably more holes in this than......I duno something with a lot of holes......Swiss cheese I guess......so feel free to tear it apart. No offence will be taken. There were 5,336 goals kicked in the comp last year. With 4,660 so far this year we are on track for a total of 5,141. That's 195 less goals in total than last year or an average of 11 goals per team less. So it's safe to say across the comp teams are scoring less. Carlton kicked 224 goals last season and have kicked 212 so far which extrapolates to a projected season total this year of 233. So while the comp has kicked on average 11 goals less per club, we have in fact kicked 9 goals more. What does that mean? Probably not much. Haha. It means Casboult has to stay. |
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