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R13: Gold Coast Vs Carlton Post Match Discussion
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Author:  Rod Waddell [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R13: Gold Coast Vs Carlton Post Match Discussion
grrofunger wrote:
Coaches Votes:

GOLD COAST v CARLTON
10 Bryce Gibbs (Carl)
8 Sam Docherty (Carl)
5 Kade Simpson (Carl)
3 Liam Jones (Carl)
2 Marc Murphy (Carl)
1 Matthew Kreuzer (Carl)
1 Jarryd Lyons (GC)


Ahh the steak knife the Crows were throwing in got a vote!
Author:  GreatEx [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R13: Gold Coast Vs Carlton Post Match Discussion
Fenwick Snap wrote:
Has anyone mentioned Gibbs?


Nah, it's far more important to bag Levi than to celebrate one of the best individual performances in recent memory.
Author:  Rexy [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R13: Gold Coast Vs Carlton Post Match Discussion
GreatEx wrote:
Fenwick Snap wrote:
Has anyone mentioned Gibbs?


Nah, it's far more important to bag Levi than to celebrate one of the best individual performances in recent memory.


It's important to both celebrate outstanding performances that enhance the teams' chances of victory and identify poor performances that damages those chances of victory.
Author:  kingkerna [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:40 pm ]
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Murphy in the coaches votes, what would they know compared to the tc experts eh
Author:  GWS [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re:
kingkerna wrote:
Murphy in the coaches votes, what would they know compared to the tc experts eh


Well he got 2 votes from one coach which could have been Eade who seems to have no @#$%&! idea at the moment... :lol:
Author:  GWS [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R13: Gold Coast Vs Carlton Post Match Discussion
Actually looking at the votes my guess is this...

Bolton
5. Gibbs
4. Docherty
3. Jones
2. Simpson
1. Kreuzer

Eade
5. Gibbs
4. Docherty
3. Simpson
2. Murphy
1. Lyons

The 5 and 4 votes are a given.

The 1 votes could be interchangeable.

So Jones had to get 3 votes from one coach and I can't believe Bolton wouldn't have given him votes for the job he did on Lynch.

Which means Eade had to give Simpson 3 votes.

Which means Bolts had to give Simpson 2.

Leaving Eade to give Murphy 2.
Author:  99prelim [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R13: Gold Coast Vs Carlton Post Match Discussion
moshe25 wrote:
99prelim wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. He needs support. He played his best when Weitering was playing forward. I feel for him, as he is playing a lone hand. I was frustrated with his performance but I blame the MC just as much for not helping him.



How did Fev do it all those years without support?
Answer: Fev was a natural (gifted) footballer. Cas is an awkward (limited) footballer

How would Weitering have helped Cas with the oof, the dropped mark, the 12 point turnaround pass to a GC player

The defending of Levi on this site is irrational. he has had a better season Tick. His secondary ruckwork is ok Tick
Bottom line is, he's only a ruck cause he's a shithouse FF
Would we be trying Fev in the ruck if he was still playing?

OMG. You're comparing a once in a generation footballer, a dual Coleman Medallist, a guy who won our club goalkicking 7 times in a row, who kicked 99 in one season, and has kicked the third most goals in our history with the second highest goals per game average........ to a good ordinary player who's in the team because currently there's no-one better.

Appreciate him for what he gives, and stop understating every good thing and overstating every bad thing.

It's like the poster who refuses to acknowledge Murphy and Gibbs even when one of them plays close to the best game ever by a Carlton player.

What do we say? :garthp: is how it goes, I think.

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Yeah Nah Moshe...don't buy it.
"Understating every good thing" = wetting ourselves when he kicks 2 goals in in a game...still averages 1 goal a game after 7 seasons
"Overstating every bad thing" = where do you want to start? Maybe you can start with our list mgt team who valued him so lowly that they weren't prepared to waste good money on a better than average contract

But of course, he's beyond heavy scrutiny because there's no one better

Look forward to just how many suitors come a knockin' on SOS' door later in the year for his services. That will be your best guide
Author:  bondiblue [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R13: Gold Coast Vs Carlton Post Match Discussion
Casboult frustrated me in the 3rd so much that I forgot the value he gave us prior to that.

Having watched the game a couple times his first half and in particular the 1stQ when he was our best player imo, he does provide a seriously dangerous target more so than any other player.

Have a look at how we entered the forward line time and time again, Casboult was the target and if he got to them all. They just didn't stick when usually they do. The GCS defence was under immense relentless pressure and when ball hit the ground Cas hit a few. We should have been 6 goals up.

Jaksch could be tried and developed there, but doubt he can bring to the team what Casboult brings. Might change next year with McKay stepping up, and Weiters going forward too when Silvagni returns, and maybe Jaksch, but it cannot be denied Cas is a better relief ruckman than all those mentioned.

I look forward to the day Cas is replaced with someone better...coz that's what I was saying in the 3rd.

Cas alone wasn't the cause of our fade out in the 3rd. We're doing o
Allright with Cas in the team thus far....I'm ok with that...for 2017.
Author:  99prelim [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R13: Gold Coast Vs Carlton Post Match Discussion
bondiblue wrote:
Casboult frustrated me in the 3rd so much that I forgot the value he gave us prior to that.

Having watched the game a couple times his first half and in particular the 1stQ when he was our best player imo, he does provide a seriously dangerous target more so than any other player.

Have a look at how we entered the forward line time and time again, Casboult was the target and if he got to them all. They just didn't stick when usually they do. The GCS defence was under immense relentless pressure and when ball hit the ground Cas hit a few. We should have been 6 goals up.

Jaksch could be tried and developed there, but doubt he can bring to the team what Casboult brings. Might change next year with McKay stepping up, and Weiters going forward too when Silvagni returns, and maybe Jaksch, but it cannot be denied Cas is a better relief ruckman than all those mentioned.

I look forward to the day Cas is replaced with someone better...coz that's what I was saying in the 3rd.

Cas alone wasn't the cause of our fade out in the 3rd. We're doing o
Allright with Cas in the team thus far....I'm ok with that...for 2017.


This is not a push for KJ post as I've officially given up on him getting a chance, but seriously, how would we flowering know what he can or cannot bring to the seniors if he's not played there
Author:  kingkerna [ Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:08 pm ]
Post subject: 
Especially with how shit we've been eh
Author:  99prelim [ Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re:
kingkerna wrote:
Especially with how shit we've been eh


Yep...challenging for top 4
Wouldn't want to upset the equilibrium of the team as we march into September
With the lowest scoring of any club, your view obviously is " if it aint broken beyond recognition, don't fix it"
Hopefully we'll have a breakout game this year and actually score 100 points
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