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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:20 pm 
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Carlton v Greater Western Sydney at Etihad Stadium

CARLTON
In: D.Thomas, L.Jones, B.Smedts, J.Lamb
Out: H.Macreadie

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
In: S.Johnson, D.Simpson, J.Finlayson
Out: -
New: Dawson Simpson (Geelong), Jeremy Finlayson (NSW-ACT U18)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:26 pm 
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Interchange: Graham, Lamb, Jones, Petrevski-Seton, Sumner, Smedts, Thomas

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:33 pm 
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you would think Jones in for Macreadie and maybe Thomas for Graham?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:34 pm 
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CARLTON

B Tom Williamson , Alex Silvagni , Jacob Weitering
HB Kade Simpson , Lachie Plowman , Caleb Marchbank
C Sam Docherty , Patrick Cripps , David Cuningham
HF Ed Curnow , Jack Silvagni , Charlie Curnow
F Zac Fisher , Levi Casboult , Matthew Wright
FOL Matthew Kreuzer , Bryce Gibbs , Marc Murphy
I/C Nick Graham , Jed Lamb , Liam Jones , Sam Petrevski-Seton , Liam Sumner , Billie Smedts , Dale Thomas
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Jed Lamb , Liam Jones , Billie Smedts , Dale Thomas
OUT
Harrison Macreadie (Omitted)
MILESTONES: Lachie Plowman - Playing 50th game, Matthew Kreuzer - Playing 150th game


GWS GIANTS

B Phil Davis, Aidan Corr, Nathan Wilson
HB Zac Williams, Adam Tomlinson, Heath Shaw
C Tom Scully, Callan Ward, Lachie Whitfield
HF Toby Greene, Jeremy Cameron, Matt de Boer
F Sam J. Reid, Jonathon Patton, Matthew Kennedy
FOL Shane Mumford, Josh Kelly, Dylan Shiel
I/C Harry Perryman, Dawson Simpson, Tim Taranto, Daniel Lloyd, Harrison Himmelberg, Steve Johnson, Jeremy Finlayson
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Dawson Simpson, Steve Johnson, Jeremy Finlayson
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Dawson Simpson, Jeremy Finlayson


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:38 pm 
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Jez1966 wrote:
you would think Jones in for Macreadie and maybe Thomas for Graham?


Yep, but maybe Thomas for Graham or Sumner

It will be a hell of a lot closer than what people think


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:44 pm 
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No real surprises in the selections. Likely Jones for Mac (his time will come), and I hope Lamb gets rewarded for solid Northern form.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:37 pm 
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Cometh the man cometh the hour, Liam Jones


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:55 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Out; Casboult (he and his manager can get stuffed)


How did you cope when Bradley would train by himself away from the club every contract renewal?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:13 pm 
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kezza wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
kezza wrote:
Out; Casboult (he and his manager can get stuffed)


What's Up?

Restricted FA.

We can keep him if we want.
Similar situation as Tuohy, except in value...depends how much more other clubs want him.

I think Levi has been really good for us this year.

Unrestricted free agent.
His manager has put off contract talks until the end of the year.
Don't let him use us to increase any offers from rival clubs. We will get shafted with any compensation pick anyway so stuff him.
Let him rot in the VFL.


You're happy to accept players who'd come to us from other clubs so best not complain when players decide to test the free agency market to pump up their price. That's smart business.

Good thing you don't follow rugby league then.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:16 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
kezza wrote:
Out; Casboult (he and his manager can get stuffed)


What's Up?

Restricted FA.

We can keep him if we want.
Similar situation as Tuohy, except in value...depends how much more other clubs want him.

I think Levi has been really good for us this year.
Yes, he has been.

Because of his contract size he's an unrestricted free agent.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:19 pm 
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kezza wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
kezza wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
kezza wrote:
Out; Casboult (he and his manager can get stuffed)


What's Up?

Restricted FA.

We can keep him if we want.
Similar situation as Tuohy, except in value...depends how much more other clubs want him.

I think Levi has been really good for us this year.

Unrestricted free agent.
His manager has put off contract talks until the end of the year.
Don't let him use us to increase any offers from rival clubs. We will get shafted with any compensation pick anyway so stuff him.
Let him rot in the VFL.


I disagree. We should try as hard as we can to push price up - that is the most important criteria for determining our compensation pick.

Do you seriously think we will get a fair compo pick? At best a pick in the late 30's or early 40's is all we will get.
Still, after picking him up as a pick 44 in the rookie draft that'd be a nice "profit".


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:40 pm 
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Yes I agree Jim a bit like tuohy made him into an afl footballer from nothing
Sell him at his highest price like Tuohy
Can't see the problem
I reckon Casboult has reached about his upper limit or so
Could seeRichmond going berserk trying to get him and the more they spend and the longer the contract the better the draft pick
Happy to keep him subsequently if he protects the young players but he won't get any better value on the trade market


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:50 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
Yes I agree Jim a bit like tuohy made him into an afl footballer from nothing
Sell him at his highest price like Tuohy
Can't see the problem
I reckon Casboult has reached about his upper limit or so
Could seeRichmond going berserk trying to get him and the more they spend and the longer the contract the better the draft pick
Happy to keep him subsequently if he protects the young players but he won't get any better value on the trade market

I guess we don't want to keep any player who kicks goals. I mean our forward line is so potent we wont miss Casboult.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:58 pm 
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Great to see Liam rewarded for a sustained period of domination down back in the magoos. He may have just found his niche at this stage of his career. After being our whipping boy for a long time, the Love For Liam knows no bounds now.... :grin:


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:32 pm 
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kezza wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
Yes I agree Jim a bit like tuohy made him into an afl footballer from nothing
Sell him at his highest price like Tuohy
Can't see the problem
I reckon Casboult has reached about his upper limit or so
Could seeRichmond going berserk trying to get him and the more they spend and the longer the contract the better the draft pick
Happy to keep him subsequently if he protects the young players but he won't get any better value on the trade market

I guess we don't want to keep any player who kicks goals. I mean our forward line is so potent we wont miss Casboult.


The guy barely averages a goal a game. He's 27, you make out like he is the next Jeremy Cameron about to take off.

If he plays well and continues to then it's good for the team. If that means another club pays overs to secure him we may have a way back into the 2nd round of the draft.

There is literally no downside to anything Casboult, the club and his manager are doing. Their all being grown up and transparent about things


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:33 pm 
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MIL wrote:
Great to see Liam rewarded for a sustained period of domination down back in the magoos. He may have just found his niche at this stage of his career. After being our whipping boy for a long time, the Love For Liam knows no bounds now.... :grin:


I expect him to get 30 touches, 12 rebound 50s and to play on all of Cameron, Patton and Greene and keep them goalless


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:27 am 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
kezza wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
Yes I agree Jim a bit like tuohy made him into an afl footballer from nothing
Sell him at his highest price like Tuohy
Can't see the problem
I reckon Casboult has reached about his upper limit or so
Could seeRichmond going berserk trying to get him and the more they spend and the longer the contract the better the draft pick
Happy to keep him subsequently if he protects the young players but he won't get any better value on the trade market

I guess we don't want to keep any player who kicks goals. I mean our forward line is so potent we wont miss Casboult.


The guy barely averages a goal a game. He's 27, you make out like he is the next Jeremy Cameron about to take off.

If he plays well and continues to then it's good for the team. If that means another club pays overs to secure him we may have a way back into the 2nd round of the draft.

There is literally no downside to anything Casboult, the club and his manager are doing. Their all being grown up and transparent about things


I agree with a previous comment that Cass is probably close to his ceiling and I agree with your last comment about everything being conducted by all parties appropriately. But the bloke has kicked 17.4 goals in 10 games which is closer to 2 goals a game than 1 and in our low scoring club its a decent output and certainly better than saying he "barely averages a goal a game". Credit where credit is due for the big fella. He's our leading goal kicker with Wright the only other goal kicker in double figures with 13.4. So he's no superstar but he is more important to us than many better forwards are to their clubs.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:34 am 
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MIL wrote:
Great to see Liam rewarded for a sustained period of domination down back in the magoos. He may have just found his niche at this stage of his career. After being our whipping boy for a long time, the Love For Liam knows no bounds now.... :grin:


It's actually great see the genuine support/hope he has generated. The negativity since he arrived has been understandable as he hasn't shown himself to be an AFL standard forward but I hope like crazy he can play a good game (against some serious forward firepower!) it will be a great good news story and the fans will get behind him in droves the same way they have ASOS.

Best wishes Liam!

Go Blues!!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:34 am 
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MIL wrote:
Great to see Liam rewarded for a sustained period of domination down back in the magoos. He may have just found his niche at this stage of his career. After being our whipping boy for a long time, the Love For Liam knows no bounds now.... :grin:


he has been very impressive this year in the back line
i have been one of his critics but i hope for us and also himself his form continues into the seniors

on a separate note, i see the missing link is also back


missing pace
missing power
missing skill
missing tackles


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:37 am 
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Will LIAM become greater than WIGGINS with his re-birth?


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