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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:52 pm 
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Option C: I'd put $100,000 on that BV would have more idea on KJ than you

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:15 pm 
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More run in the midfield with Cunningham's inclusion.Thats good.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:24 pm 
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More run in the midfield with Cunningham's inclusion.Thats good.


Has to have an impact with the few possessions he'll get.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:34 pm 
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I hope they give Cuningham a block of 3-4 games. Thought he finished off last year pretty well at senior level. Love to see him find confidence at this level. He's got some fantastic AFL traits.


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:09 pm 
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So how many tackles should a kpp be making?

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:11 pm 
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Megaman wrote:
So how many tackles should a kpp be making?


Levi's clearly fulfilling the quota


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:13 pm 
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Crippa wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
fmurphy30 wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
So you have a player KJ who "picks" and "chooses" for 2 years and probably isn't a team man.
Do you

A) pick him after 6 good weeks
B)test his desire and hardness over 3 months
C) Put a line through him.

If you answered B) you were correct


If that was/is the case, I would be ok with it. On the basis that KJ knows its the case and he is not dead in the water. I hope they haven't closed the book on him.


No, you're wrong fmurphy30.
Don't you know. Someone who knows his postman who knows his butchers Uncle said he has given up.
Resulting from that the posts tell us he "picks and chooses" and "probably isn't a team man" :lol: Possibly, maybe.
He's now giving up and having a sook. What's more, he wants to be spoon fed!
Obviously he's not "tough and uncompromising"! Forget the fact he played out his first game with us with broken ribs and a punctured lung. Then spent the next few days in hospital. Heroes like Michael Jezz could do that! :grin:
Forget 10 contested possessions last week, that's for pussies. Get with the program. :lol:

Just ask his next door neighbours hairdressers chiropodist! It's all true!


Very entertaining post. Well written and gave me a smile. But really a load of rubbish. What's more likely in your opinion?

Option A: He is an awesome player giving 100% and delivering on what the club asks of him and being really hard at it and kicking 5 goals and being ignored for selection because the MC don't like him?

Or

Option B: that he isn't doing what is asked of him, is only laying an average over 3 years of less than one tackle per game and isn't doing the hard stuff and is instead taking a few marks against ordinary VFL opposition and kicking a few goals?

Please. Tell me, do you honestly believe A or B above?


What about Option C?

Option C is he didn't prove himself in his first 2 years and the pressure is on him to retain his place.
He currently isn't doing enough to demand his place and unless he improves his output, he'll probably be delisted.
None of which I disagree with.

What I do disagree with is keyboard heroes who probably squeal like pigs when they get a paper cut, accusing our players of being cowards or lacking heart. Or others who make claims about tackle stats which are blatant bullshit.
And then using those fabricated stats to try and prove a point. Let's face it, if you have to make stuff up, your point is probably crap.
I'm also bemused how you're such an expert on Jaksch' form yet you haven't actually attended a VFL game. :?
I don't claim to be an expert but at least I've attended most VFL games and actually watched the players.

By the way, if you're going to call my post rubbish, at least point out the inaccuracies. But I suspect thats not your style. You don't seem to be big on facts. Or at least real ones anyway.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:25 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
I hope they give Cuningham a block of 3-4 games. Thought he finished off last year pretty well at senior level. Love to see him find confidence at this level. He's got some fantastic AFL traits.


You're saying you'd hope Cuni lingers?


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:30 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Crippa wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
fmurphy30 wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
So you have a player KJ who "picks" and "chooses" for 2 years and probably isn't a team man.
Do you

A) pick him after 6 good weeks
B)test his desire and hardness over 3 months
C) Put a line through him.

If you answered B) you were correct


If that was/is the case, I would be ok with it. On the basis that KJ knows its the case and he is not dead in the water. I hope they haven't closed the book on him.


No, you're wrong fmurphy30.
Don't you know. Someone who knows his postman who knows his butchers Uncle said he has given up.
Resulting from that the posts tell us he "picks and chooses" and "probably isn't a team man" :lol: Possibly, maybe.
He's now giving up and having a sook. What's more, he wants to be spoon fed!
Obviously he's not "tough and uncompromising"! Forget the fact he played out his first game with us with broken ribs and a punctured lung. Then spent the next few days in hospital. Heroes like Michael Jezz could do that! :grin:
Forget 10 contested possessions last week, that's for pussies. Get with the program. :lol:

Just ask his next door neighbours hairdressers chiropodist! It's all true!


Very entertaining post. Well written and gave me a smile. But really a load of rubbish. What's more likely in your opinion?

Option A: He is an awesome player giving 100% and delivering on what the club asks of him and being really hard at it and kicking 5 goals and being ignored for selection because the MC don't like him?

Or

Option B: that he isn't doing what is asked of him, is only laying an average over 3 years of less than one tackle per game and isn't doing the hard stuff and is instead taking a few marks against ordinary VFL opposition and kicking a few goals?

Please. Tell me, do you honestly believe A or B above?


What about Option C?

Option C is he didn't prove himself in his first 2 years and the pressure is on him to retain his place.
He currently isn't doing enough to demand his place and unless he improves his output, he'll probably be delisted.
None of which I disagree with.

What I do disagree with is keyboard heroes who probably squeal like pigs when they get a paper cut, accusing our players of being cowards or lacking heart. Or others who make claims about tackle stats which are blatant bullshit.
And then using those fabricated stats to try and prove a point. Let's face it, if you have to make stuff up, your point is probably crap.
I'm also bemused how you're such an expert on Jaksch' form yet you haven't actually attended a VFL game. :?
I don't claim to be an expert but at least I've attended most VFL games and actually watched the players.

By the way, if you're going to call my post rubbish, at least point out the inaccuracies. But I suspect thats not your style. You don't seem to be big on facts. Or at least real ones anyway.



Nah. Grro's Option C was defs better. :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:35 pm 
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showbag wrote:
Stefchook wrote:
I hope they give Cuningham a block of 3-4 games. Thought he finished off last year pretty well at senior level. Love to see him find confidence at this level. He's got some fantastic AFL traits.


You're saying you'd hope Cuni lingers?

( :cool: :sly: how long ya bin waitin' to use that?)

I just hope the crowd don't take Potsie shots at him. At least Blues supporters in the crowd will think of him fonzie.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:56 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Crippa wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
fmurphy30 wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
So you have a player KJ who "picks" and "chooses" for 2 years and probably isn't a team man.
Do you

A) pick him after 6 good weeks
B)test his desire and hardness over 3 months
C) Put a line through him.

If you answered B) you were correct


If that was/is the case, I would be ok with it. On the basis that KJ knows its the case and he is not dead in the water. I hope they haven't closed the book on him.


No, you're wrong fmurphy30.
Don't you know. Someone who knows his postman who knows his butchers Uncle said he has given up.
Resulting from that the posts tell us he "picks and chooses" and "probably isn't a team man" :lol: Possibly, maybe.
He's now giving up and having a sook. What's more, he wants to be spoon fed!
Obviously he's not "tough and uncompromising"! Forget the fact he played out his first game with us with broken ribs and a punctured lung. Then spent the next few days in hospital. Heroes like Michael Jezz could do that! :grin:
Forget 10 contested possessions last week, that's for pussies. Get with the program. :lol:

Just ask his next door neighbours hairdressers chiropodist! It's all true!


Very entertaining post. Well written and gave me a smile. But really a load of rubbish. What's more likely in your opinion?

Option A: He is an awesome player giving 100% and delivering on what the club asks of him and being really hard at it and kicking 5 goals and being ignored for selection because the MC don't like him?

Or

Option B: that he isn't doing what is asked of him, is only laying an average over 3 years of less than one tackle per game and isn't doing the hard stuff and is instead taking a few marks against ordinary VFL opposition and kicking a few goals?

Please. Tell me, do you honestly believe A or B above?


What about Option C?

Option C is he didn't prove himself in his first 2 years and the pressure is on him to retain his place.
He currently isn't doing enough to demand his place and unless he improves his output, he'll probably be delisted.
None of which I disagree with.

What I do disagree with is keyboard heroes who probably squeal like pigs when they get a paper cut, accusing our players of being cowards or lacking heart. Or others who make claims about tackle stats which are blatant bullshit.
And then using those fabricated stats to try and prove a point. Let's face it, if you have to make stuff up, your point is probably crap.
I'm also bemused how you're such an expert on Jaksch' form yet you haven't actually attended a VFL game. :?
I don't claim to be an expert but at least I've attended most VFL games and actually watched the players.

By the way, if you're going to call my post rubbish, at least point out the inaccuracies. But I suspect thats not your style. You don't seem to be big on facts. Or at least real ones anyway.


Geez! I was being genuine when I said I enjoyed your post.

My bad. Hand up. I meant to type less than two tackles not less than one tackle. See my post at the end of page 8 with the correct stats. Three seasons of VFL averaging tackles of 1, 1 and 2. Also note I openly said people who attend the games are better placed than me to have a strong opinion. That doesn't mean I can't have an opinion at all but clearly shows I am not here to pretend to know more than others or make wild statements or pot players.

I've never said a bad word about KJ. Do a search. Read my posts. I'm just sick of "the MC have something against him" rubbish on here. Every week people act like he should be picked and the only reason why he isn't is because the club has something against him. I guess I misinterpreted your post as being in that bucket. That you thought the MC had something against him. That's what I meant by saying it was rubbish.

I agree with your option c. That he currently isn't doing enough to demand his place. That has to do with things other than marks and goals. I suggested tackles as an example.

People around here need to relax a little.


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:22 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Patrick Keane‏ @AFL_PKeane 10s10 seconds ago

Carlton v Fremantle
I/Change; Graham, Thomas, Williamson, Cunningham.
Emergencies; Boekhorst, Jones, Armfield.
Cunningham in for White.



Boekorsrt definitely went over on the plane - not sure about the other emergencies.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:00 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
fmurphy30 wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
So you have a player KJ who "picks" and "chooses" for 2 years and probably isn't a team man.
Do you

A) pick him after 6 good weeks
B)test his desire and hardness over 3 months
C) Put a line through him.

If you answered B) you were correct


If that was/is the case, I would be ok with it. On the basis that KJ knows its the case and he is not dead in the water. I hope they haven't closed the book on him.


No, you're wrong fmurphy30.
Don't you know. Someone who knows his postman who knows his butchers Uncle said he has given up.
Resulting from that the posts tell us he "picks and chooses" and "probably isn't a team man" :lol: Possibly, maybe.
He's now giving up and having a sook. What's more, he wants to be spoon fed!
Obviously he's not "tough and uncompromising"! Forget the fact he played out his first game with us with broken ribs and a punctured lung. Then spent the next few days in hospital. Heroes like Michael Jezz could do that! :grin:
Forget 10 contested possessions last week, that's for pussies. Get with the program. :lol:

Just ask his next door neighbours hairdressers chiropodist! It's

Blue Vain, your lack of logical arguement is astounding. Keep posting. We will keep reading


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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 6:13 am 
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Great. I'm being mocked by someone who failed grade 4 English! :grin:

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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 11:13 am 
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grrofunger wrote:
Option C: I'd put $100,000 on that BV would have more idea on KJ than you


Did you or BV read my post. Option B)?


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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 11:55 am 
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It's amazing how these types of opinions (KJ lazy/given up) magically become fact.


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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:43 pm 
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$3.45 outstanding odds for us, given our current form, Cunners in and against a team who we beat there last year. Subi a happy place for the Blues. I'll be almost disappointed if we don't win.


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showbag wrote:
Stefchook wrote:
I hope they give Cuningham a block of 3-4 games. Thought he finished off last year pretty well at senior level. Love to see him find confidence at this level. He's got some fantastic AFL traits.


You're saying you'd hope Cuni lingers?



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CK95 wrote:
showbag wrote:
Stefchook wrote:
I hope they give Cuningham a block of 3-4 games. Thought he finished off last year pretty well at senior level. Love to see him find confidence at this level. He's got some fantastic AFL traits.


You're saying you'd hope Cuni lingers?



:lol:

Yeah good one. I was going to say something similar but couldn't quite think of the word. It was on the tip of my tongue..

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Jones and Armfield playing VFL, Boekhorst must be the only emergency travelling to WA.


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