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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:00 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:06 pm 
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No reward for dominance in the first half. We were always going to pay especially as they couldn't @#$%&! miss.

Extremely disappointing second half though, especially the third quarter. Our midfield and leaders went missing.

Fisher was great on debut.

Our skill level is still not up to speed. Will continue to be our downfall.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:07 pm 
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Really like the look of Fisher - he will be a beauty.
SOSOS played well.
Cripps was well below his best tonight.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:09 pm 
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They have two things we desperately need.

- Fast, skillful, fit mids
- Dominant key forwards who don't miss

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:10 pm 
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No reward for dominance in the first half. We were always going to pay especially as they couldn't @#$%&! miss.

Extremely disappointing second half though, especially the third quarter. Our midfield and leaders went missing.

Fisher was great on debut.

Our skill level is still not up to speed. Will continue to be our downfall.


Most definitely. Been poor for years. Pleasing to see Levi kick straight. Plenty to work on. Thomas must go.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:11 pm 
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In the end we lost by about 4 goals, despite missing about 10 set shots. (And the Suns were incredibly accurate.) 10 mins in the 3rd and 4 mins in the last where they blew us away. Happy with the fact that we steadied the ship when our 'tired legs' could have seen us destroyed in the last quarter.

We are doing well and a forward who can kick straight would see us 3-1 rather than 1-3.
Love the tackle pressure but always feel that whilst we tackle hard, we don't get rewarded and because we are in for the tackle, the opposition get the take away...

Glad Levi had a good game.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:12 pm 
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Pros: the kids. Every single one of them! :thumbsup:

Cons: Cripps under expectation. Maybe not 100% right. We are definitely not getting enough from Kruze. 10 disposals. 3 efficient. 30% efficiency. Zero goals. One point. The opposition ruckman have been hurting us.


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Enjoyable first half but it was an awful lot of effort for not much reward.
Terrible third qtr cost us obv.
Casboult was good.
Pickett was busy.
Nice debut from Fisher.

Set shot kicking at Etihad has always been a problem!

They were 16.3 at one point. Couldn't @#$%&! miss and they scored so easily. Kick kick kick goal.

Piss Thomas off please.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:14 pm 
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Plenty of positives.
Young guys Fish, Pickett, Charlie, Jack, Williamson all showed good signs in patches especially in the first half.
I liked Charlie and Jack presenting and demanding the ball on the lead.
Pickett lively in the first half. Fisher nice hands, nice goal and tenacious. Charlie was more lively. Jack looks versatile.

Cripps , Weitering, Marchabank, Rowe not the best of nights. Weitering looked to be carrying a leg and had a dirty night.
Cripps a long way short of his best. The new third man up rule is not going to do him any favours. Kruz and Murphy quiet second half.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:16 pm 
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I know I continually call for Daisy to be dropped but I don't think he adds value. I admire his tenacity but too often he calls for the ball in an area that disadvantages the team. He demands the ball out wide when we are controlling the corridor and he doesn't have the capacity to deliver well when he receives it. 2 weeks in a row Polson has looked the goods in the VFL. I think its time to bring him in. He'll also offer more flexibility that Daisy does.
Unfortunately I suspect a couple of our other youngsters may need a week off soon.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:21 pm 
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missnaut wrote:
Enjoyable first half but it was an awful lot of effort for not much reward.
Terrible third qtr cost us obv.
Casboult was good.
Pickett was busy.
Nice debut from Fisher.

Set shot kicking at Etihad has always been a problem!

They were 16.3 at one point. Couldn't @#$%&! miss and they scored so easily. Kick kick kick goal.

Piss Thomas off please.


Yes, reckon we can change Thomas and White and bring in Polson and another key forward. Let Levi focus on rucking with Kreuzer. So much a better and more confident player when he plays with time on the ball.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:23 pm 
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1st half everything worked (apart from set shots) .

2nd half all fell apart.

Straight out fitness / dev issue .

Plenty of positives for a side coming from a long way back.

Enjoyed it.

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jim wrote:
missnaut wrote:
Enjoyable first half but it was an awful lot of effort for not much reward.
Terrible third qtr cost us obv.
Casboult was good.
Pickett was busy.
Nice debut from Fisher.

Set shot kicking at Etihad has always been a problem!

They were 16.3 at one point. Couldn't @#$%&! miss and they scored so easily. Kick kick kick goal.

Piss Thomas off please.


Yes, reckon we can change Thomas and White and bring in Polson and another key forward. Let Levi focus on rucking with Kreuzer. So much a better and more confident player when he plays with time on the ball.


I'd like to see another young guy as well but it's I likely to mean we are less competitive .

Suns games plan was obvious in its exploitation of our youth.

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Cripps clearly injured, a real shame

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kingkerna wrote:
Cripps clearly injured, a real shame


Is he injured or just had a poor game, definitely struggled.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:29 pm 
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Plenty of positives.
Cripps , Weitering, Marchabank, Rowe not the best of nights. Weitering looked to be carrying a leg and had a dirty night.

Plowman didn't have a great match either I thought.
Weitering doesn't look right to me - if he's injured then give him a rest.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:29 pm 
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MPH78 wrote:
No reward for dominance in the first half. We were always going to pay especially as they couldn't @#$%&! miss.

Extremely disappointing second half though, especially the third quarter. Our midfield and leaders went missing.

Fisher was great on debut.

Our skill level is still not up to speed. Will continue to be our downfall.


spot on summary

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kingkerna wrote:
Cripps clearly injured, a real shame


Agree - the lad could hardly run.

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cimm1979 wrote:
jim wrote:
missnaut wrote:
Enjoyable first half but it was an awful lot of effort for not much reward.
Terrible third qtr cost us obv.
Casboult was good.
Pickett was busy.
Nice debut from Fisher.

Set shot kicking at Etihad has always been a problem!

They were 16.3 at one point. Couldn't @#$%&! miss and they scored so easily. Kick kick kick goal.

Piss Thomas off please.


Yes, reckon we can change Thomas and White and bring in Polson and another key forward. Let Levi focus on rucking with Kreuzer. So much a better and more confident player when he plays with time on the ball.


I'd like to see another young guy as well but it's I likely to mean we are less competitive .

Suns games plan was obvious in its exploitation of our youth.


Still best we go young for a while.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:37 pm 
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Casboult disappointing for mine. Kicked 2 junk time goals. There must have been 5 times where he didnt half the contest.


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