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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:14 am 
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Chitty's Finger wrote:
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We will need Kennedy and Setterfield to play lots of minutes in lots of games, which they should be able to do.

but too many of our kids just didn't get enough of it last year.

Couple really do need to pull the finger out possession wise.


That would be because they are young, undeveloped and lacked support from senior personnel around them.
Maybe you/we are expecting too much from the young, who should be playing in the reserves if not ready for senior footy.

Having said that, I am expecting a lot more from ALL of the 3rd and 4th year players in 2019:

3rd year: Fisher, Macreadie, Williamson, SPS, Polson, Kerr, DeBois, Setterfield
4th year: Weitering, McKay, Curnow, Marchbank, Cuningham, Silvagni, Kennedy, Pickett, Garlett, Lang

If 70% step up by 10%, we have a team who can win plenty of games.


And our outside ball winners / ability was starved given our run out of defence was not part of the coach's plan. We even had to try Murphy back in defence to get it out of the 50!

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:24 pm 
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Missing Shiel is a shame I suppose. I say 'I suppose' because I was worried we'd give up too much for him.

So we are taking the longer route to the midfield but I think Dow, Setterfield and Walsh won't need that much time. Probably in 3 years the midfield will be strong. Cripps will be 27. I can live with that.

Cripps. Setterfield. Dow. Walsh. All on ball is crazy.

Kennedy could be a player too.


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Paddycripps wrote:
Kennedy could be a player too.


He DEFINITELY will be :smoking:


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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Paddycripps wrote:
Probably in 3 years the midfield will be strong. Cripps will be 27. I can live with that.


Just so long as Cripps can as well.


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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17premierships wrote:
We are going to need several players to have break out seasons!!
Lots of quality still very young....(Age) at the start of the 2019 season

Dow (19) 20 games
Obrein (19) 18 games
SPS (21) 42 games
Kennedy (21) 31 games
Fisher (20) 34 games
Cuningham (22) 16 games

Settlefield (21) 2 games
Stocker (18) 0 games
Walsh (18) 0 games

Murphy (31) 249 games
Ed Curnow (29) 143 games
Cripps (24) 81 games

Docherty (25) 92 games Could play midfield depending on strength of half back line

Did not include Polson, Lang or Silvangi as they are played predominately in other positions



Addition of one more midfeilder....Liam Stocker (Walsh has been coming for the last six months) doesnt sound like much but i think it tops off the midfield nicely for young mids!! A YEAR EARLY!!


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Our midfield is much stronger on paper.
Whether or not that translates to possessions, tackles, clearances and goals in the short term is yet to be seen.
If we can keep them together and add a gun FA next year, they will be a force to be reckoned with and so will we.

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Continuity is key, and again shows the importance of having Andrew Russell on board.

We've got a club filled with young studs, but it's up to the club to develop them now.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:23 am 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Missing Shiel is a shame I suppose. I say 'I suppose' because I was worried we'd give up too much for him.

So we are taking the longer route to the midfield but I think Dow, Setterfield and Walsh won't need that much time. Probably in 3 years the midfield will be strong. Cripps will be 27. I can live with that.

Cripps. Setterfield. Dow. Walsh. All on ball is crazy.

Kennedy could be a player too.


Stocker, and Fisher. Plenty of quality inside players to allow Fish to play outside.

LOB and SPS on the outside.

I'm sure Cripps can live with that, and I'm sure we will add an A Grader for 2020 to make Cripps even happier.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:07 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Missing Shiel is a shame I suppose. I say 'I suppose' because I was worried we'd give up too much for him.

So we are taking the longer route to the midfield but I think Dow, Setterfield and Walsh won't need that much time. Probably in 3 years the midfield will be strong. Cripps will be 27. I can live with that.

Cripps. Setterfield. Dow. Walsh. All on ball is crazy.

Kennedy could be a player too.


Stocker, and Fisher. Plenty of quality inside players to allow Fish to play outside.

LOB and SPS on the outside.

I'm sure Cripps can live with that, and I'm sure we will add an A Grader for 2020 to make Cripps even happier.


Add an A grader to our midfield depth now and it could easily be the best in the comp by a fair margin ?


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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Stefchook wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Probably in 3 years the midfield will be strong. Cripps will be 27. I can live with that.


Just so long as Cripps can as well.



Agree with you, its very taxing on Cripps, but IMHO Kennedy , Newman & Bugg will be good great support in sharing the physical impact and I' m expecting Wlalsh , Stocker and Setterfiled later part of 2nd half too.
Stocker is a strong inside player with good burst speed.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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Donstuie wrote:
Continuity is key, and again shows the importance of having Andrew Russell on board.

We've got a club filled with young studs, but it's up to the club to develop them now.


Spot on and AR suffers no fools when it comes to implementing his regime and so it should be his way or the highway. 2nd half 2019 & 2020 will be very interesting , Cripps , SPS , Setterfield Walsh , Kennedy , Stocker Dow, O’Brien not many opposition midfields will be able to match our depth.
Silvagni and the team have been exceptional.
The amount of talent we’ve accumulated is just so exciting.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:27 pm 
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http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2018-12-06/curnow-

Ed thinks we have bolstered the midfield with a lot of new talent with the grunt to go.
We 'use to' be thin in the midfield.

Everyone would be having a second look at our midfield:

Highlighted yellow played most of or all of 2018

Cripps Ed Murphy
Fisher SPS Kennedy
Dow Obrien Pickett

Walsh Setterfield Stocker

Plenty of talented Depth, obviously when we have an injury free list.

Bugg Silvagni Cuningham Lang Garlett



Injury free, we have a deep midfield.
The first 9 players listed above are a great staring point

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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Seems like we keep forgetting Polson. Include him guys, he will be part of the midfield rotations.


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:41 am 
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I think Owies has more chance long term than Polson.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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Our midfield competitiveness will in large part be determined by how well Russell can get the midfield additions of the last 3 years prepared.

We were simply the uncompetitive after 1/4 time in a lot of games Durban to fitness or just no mids.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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The one player that continually frustrates me and I have the biggest questions and concerns about living up to his potential is SPS. He promises so much, but rarely IMHO, strings good, let alone great games together. I would love to hear other people's perspectives and opinions. I really wonder if he is going to suffer from the added depth and fitness of the young guys we have brought in and who will be available after recovering from injury. Will he turn into our next Yarran?

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Probably more like our next Houlihan. Mighty fine disposal but took a while to find his groove.

I feel like sps is a different cat from what one expect. He seems tentative and yet he’s hard as nails. He seems conservative with his kicking and yet he can spot up dudes like no one else.

He just doesn’t fit any particular mould that comes to mind so we’re waiting for sps to become SPS. I think he’ll be the anti Yarran in-so-much-as he will slowly realise his potential without the incredible flashes that Yarran showed.

In fact I feel we’re only talking about Yarran in the same breath as sps because of heritage. Because I firmly believe from an application POV and a skills POV and a positional POV there’s no similarity at all.

Then again it’s my birthday and I’m really quite drunk so

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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The one player that continually frustrates me and I have the biggest questions and concerns about living up to his potential is SPS. He promises so much, but rarely IMHO, strings good, let alone great games together. I would love to hear other people's perspectives and opinions. I really wonder if he is going to suffer from the added depth and fitness of the young guys we have brought in and who will be available after recovering from injury. Will he turn into our next Yarran?

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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China Blues wrote:
The one player that continually frustrates me and I have the biggest questions and concerns about living up to his potential is SPS. He promises so much, but rarely IMHO, strings good, let alone great games together. I would love to hear other people's perspectives and opinions. I really wonder if he is going to suffer from the added depth and fitness of the young guys we have brought in and who will be available after recovering from injury. Will he turn into our next Yarran?


He's 2 years in, we should cut him some slack. Not many are stars after only 2 years in the system.


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