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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:28 pm 
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If Cuningham, SPS and Fisher can contribute at senior level this year (and the little preseason hints we're getting suggest that's a possibility).

Along with the addition of Palmer, who should be a solid contributor.

And beside the senior core of Murphy, Cripps, Gibbs and Curnow.

And I'd still expect Kerridge to roll through there as well.

Obviously we've still got a way to go. But it already looks deeper and stronger than 2016.


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:51 pm 
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It looks like we're finally starting to build some depth in both key position players and midfielders. I think SOS is on the right track.


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The depth will only get better as we clear away the shackles and reinstate the process will take time yet and much patience .

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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Yep Cripps Gibbs murphy the mainstays with Palmer Kerridge having a battering ram role plus hopefully adding Cunningham SPS Fisher and contrary to others still am keen for graham to continue to develop and get a go as well

Would be keen to not see Simon White in there as that hasn't worked in my view under either of our last 2 coaches


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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We are looking good for quality kids..

How on earth did it all go so wrong for so long..


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:26 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
If Cuningham, SPS and Fisher can contribute at senior level this year (and the little preseason hints we're getting suggest that's a possibility).

Along with the addition of Palmer, who should be a solid contributor.

And beside the senior core of Murphy, Cripps, Gibbs and Curnow.

And I'd still expect Kerridge to roll through there as well.

Obviously we've still got a way to go. But it already looks deeper and stronger than 2016.


We'll be in deep trouble if we have to call on Kerridge to roll through there.


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famousblueraincoat wrote:
We are looking good for quality kids..

How on earth did it all go so wrong for so long..


Wrong people in the job.

It was happening at my own work for so long...things starting to look up now. It's no different really.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:21 am 
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stabpass10 wrote:
Stefchook wrote:
If Cuningham, SPS and Fisher can contribute at senior level this year (and the little preseason hints we're getting suggest that's a possibility).

Along with the addition of Palmer, who should be a solid contributor.

And beside the senior core of Murphy, Cripps, Gibbs and Curnow.

And I'd still expect Kerridge to roll through there as well.

Obviously we've still got a way to go. But it already looks deeper and stronger than 2016.


We'll be in deep trouble if we have to call on Kerridge to roll through there.


Kerridge is not class but a foot soldier.

He, along with Curnow ran kms unmatched by others in 2016.
No wonder some of his disposal was askew.
He did some fantastic things and I appreciated his input.

Whilst I did see red a couple of times, I always felt that too much was left to too few with 2nd and 3rd efforts and getting to the next contest or running back to support the defenders.

I know where youre coming from stabpass, but I expect Kerridge to play a role in the seniors, and wont be shocked when he does.

Its about building a highly competitive midfield with skill and poise, but we also need depth to cover injury and the rotations created by resting players throughout the season. We can only do that with depth.

He's a good depth player to have in 2017.
2018, well that's another story with the development of our plethora of youngsters who will make their mark for the Bluebaggers in the next 2 years.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:32 am 
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Stefchook wrote:
If Cuningham, SPS and Fisher can contribute at senior level this year (and the little preseason hints we're getting suggest that's a possibility).

Along with the addition of Palmer, who should be a solid contributor.

And beside the senior core of Murphy, Cripps, Gibbs and Curnow.

And I'd still expect Kerridge to roll through there as well.

Obviously we've still got a way to go. But it already looks deeper and stronger than 2016.


Spot on Stefchook. The senior core hasn't changed, but with Murphy back and the addition of Palmer, I can see them rotating in and out of the midfield carrying the bulk of the work, plus providing a dangerous option when going forward.

Those 3 first mentioned look like they will make their debut in 2017 and seem to have the class to contribute. How long will depend on their engines and how many minutes they can withstand being in the guts for an AFL game.

Then there's another couple of mids I am curious about in Sumner Boekhurst and Pickett. All first rounders and 2 of them top 10 draftees who have shown glimpses of belonging at AFL level.

Then there's small players on our list who will have to develop a tank and skillset required to play at the highest level without throwing them into the coal face in 2016 such as Polson, Le Bois and Williamson.

We have recruited a lot of speed, but its the seniors who give the youngsters a chop out and chance to shine. The rest is up to them.

Lets not underestimate the by product of these midfield recruits is competition for spots is the other major contributor to our improvement in 2017.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:00 am 
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Is Fisher really a chance to make an impact early on - he looked VERY slight for an AFL player.
He probably will always be 'skinny' but will he have had enough time to develop the strength and balance to make an impact this season (let alone early in the season)?


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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Can we run Brianna Davey through the mid-field as well?


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:52 am 
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The core is,
Murphy, Gibbs and Cripps.
With the kids,
SPS, Fisher and Cuningham still finding there feet (so to speak),
Players like,
Palmer and Smedts will help fill the holes whilst the kids above find there feet..
Still at least three or four mids short.
After years of below average drafting I believe we are on the right track.


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:29 pm 
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blueboy23 wrote:
The core is,
Murphy, Gibbs and Cripps.
With the kids,
SPS, Fisher and Cuningham still finding there feet (so to speak),
Players like,
Palmer and Smedts will help fill the holes whilst the kids above find there feet..
Still at least three or four mids short.
After years of below average drafting I believe we are on the right track.


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:10 am 
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17th Premiership wrote:
Is Fisher really a chance to make an impact early on - he looked VERY slight for an AFL player.
He probably will always be 'skinny' but will he have had enough time to develop the strength and balance to make an impact this season (let alone early in the season)?



Skinny Lappin did allright.
Slight Simpson goes allright too.
Murphy wasn't too bad as a 1st year player.

My favourite opposition rover Gary Wilson copped a lot of head knocks but was fearless and an absolute gem...just ask his team mates.

Fisher has a go, takes risks, sees ball, gets ball and is fearless with a huge appetite for the contest. Couple that with speed and skill, that's all you need to make an impact in AFL.

He's smart and quick enough to get out of trouble.

Your point does have merit, and if he is selected you will see him come off 2nd best in many collisions. The point I like to make here is that so too will many other bigger bodied players.

Simpson still blows me away how he is similarly built and still fronts the following week...played 160 odd consecutive games for the Blues and if he didn't have his jaw broken by the Collingwood thug he'd still be playing consecutive games...possibly a record.

Moral to the story: There's more to it than just size if you've got all the other stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:29 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Is Fisher really a chance to make an impact early on - he looked VERY slight for an AFL player.
He probably will always be 'skinny' but will he have had enough time to develop the strength and balance to make an impact this season (let alone early in the season)?



Skinny Lappin did allright.
Slight Simpson goes allright too.
urphy wasn't too bad as a 1st year player.

My favourite opposition rover Gary Wilson copped a lot of head knocks but was fearless and an absolute gem...just ask his team mates.

Fisher has a go, takes risks, sees ball, gets ball and is fearless with a huge appetite for the contest. Couple that with speed and skill, that's all you need to make an impact in AFL.

He's smart and quick enough to get out of trouble.

Your point does have merit, and if he is selected you will see him come off 2nd best in many collisions. The point I like to make here is that so will many other bigger bodied players.

Simpson still blows me away how he has similar attributes and still fronts the following week...played 160 odd consecutive games for th Blues and if he didn't have his jaw broken by the Collingwood thug he'd still be playing consecutive games...possibly a record.

Moral to the story: There's more to it than just size if you've got all the other stuff.


I think SOS has learned his lesson having overlooked Caleb Daniel, and is now paying attention to guys with real talent who may recently have been thought of as undersized.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:53 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Is Fisher really a chance to make an impact early on - he looked VERY slight for an AFL player.
He probably will always be 'skinny' but will he have had enough time to develop the strength and balance to make an impact this season (let alone early in the season)?



Skinny Lappin did allright.
Slight Simpson goes allright too.
Murphy wasn't too bad as a 1st year player.

My favourite opposition rover Gary Wilson copped a lot of head knocks but was fearless and an absolute gem...just ask his team mates.

Fisher has a go, takes risks, sees ball, gets ball and is fearless with a huge appetite for the contest. Couple that with speed and skill, that's all you need to make an impact in AFL.

He's smart and quick enough to get out of trouble.

Your point does have merit, and if he is selected you will see him come off 2nd best in many collisions. The point I like to make here is that so too will many other bigger bodied players.

Simpson still blows me away how he is similarly built and still fronts the following week...played 160 odd consecutive games for the Blues and if he didn't have his jaw broken by the Collingwood thug he'd still be playing consecutive games...possibly a record.

Moral to the story: There's more to it than just size if you've got all the other stuff.


Agree totally, it's not the size of the dog in the fight.


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:20 pm 
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Our midfield is weak. No depth. Compare our 8 best midfielders to a midplaced side.
Our lack of depth will be exposed in the second half of games because the young bodies will not be able to sustain competitivemess
Expect a lot of fade outs this year. - more so as the year progresses

Cripps no preseason
Murphy a year older
Gibbs tick
Kerridge, Curnow and Palmer are second stringers
Fisher, SPS, Cunningham are kids


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
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Michael Jezz wrote:
Our midfield is weak. No depth. Compare our 8 best midfielders to a midplaced side.
Our lack of depth will be exposed in the second half of games because the young bodies will not be able to sustain competitivemess
Expect a lot of fade outs this year. - more so as the year progresses

Cripps no preseason
Murphy a year older
Gibbs tick
Kerridge, Curnow and Palmer are second stringers
Fisher, SPS, Cunningham are kids


Yes, still one of the weakest midfields going around.

Which is why Charlie Curnow will get a decent run there.

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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:11 pm 
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I could be wrong but i think we will be slaughtered in the midfield...

Murphy gets beaten up
Cripps wont be fit
Gibbs could be in self preservation mode
Phillips is gone
So we may get killed at the centre contests....


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 Post subject: Re: stronger midfield?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:02 pm 
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Perhaps. But do you think the midfield will be stronger than last year (which is what this thread is about)?


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