Also makes Casboult's decision to postpone negotiations until the end of the year look pretty smart....

If Gibbs left, and picked up Kelly, then Martin, and incorporate Hopper into the Kelly trade, we've rebuilt our midfield.

I'd trust our recruiters to pick some bottom age smokies again.

Martin as in Dustin Martin?
Great player but I think we are going down the no bogans path.

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I'm hearing if the Kelly/Hopper deal is going to happen, it will be packaging the Casboult compo pick together with a first rounder (probably next years as it's a better draft) and Murphy, Gibbs ain't going anywhere.


We're probably also going to take a salary cap dump as well, which will leave us in a favourable future position of positive dealings with GWS, as there will be a few more wanting to come back here in a year or two and they'd rather join a team where they have a few friends there already.

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So based on the current grapevine....
- Blues Cross trade in Dusty (take a salary hit for Dusty along the way) and hand over Dusty and Casboult and next years first
- Tigers get high Compensation pick (reflecting high Dusty Salary that GWS only cop a portion of)
- Blues pick up Kelly / Hoppper, Keep Gibbs and first round draft pick but lose Levi

Who loses?

This.

Kelley AND Hooper for our first rounder and Casboult compo pick? Where the hell do i sign? Danny Ocean would be recruiting SOS after that steal.

Or do you mean Kelly OR Hooper?

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I did mention Murphy and us taking a salary cap dump player as well.

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Why?

Absolute gun. I'd take him in a heartbeat.

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Same here. Would add an edge to our midfield. No brainer if you ask me.

So we keep Murphy and Gibbs and our first pick this year for Hopper/Kelly by giving up Casboult and next year's 1st?
Yes please.
Any news on Kreuzer?

Nope I didn't say we'd keep Murphy.

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Personally i can't see Murphy going anywhere.

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Doesnt know how to use a knife and fork.

Murphy and Bolt for Hopper and Kelly, and perhaps a Palmer-type player to alleviate cap pressure so they can afford to pay for our two. Maybe a late pick swap, yada yada.

GWS get a quality, experienced, ex-captain midfielder who will slot in nicely. And a forward who will likely be more dangerous with the type of delivery they'll give him.

We get two young mids... one to replace Murphy immediately and the other to replace Gibbs at the end of *next* year. Next year's draft we also get the two best mids available with our first pick and Adelaides first pick (which we get for Gibbs). That's four young, high quality, high potential mids for the loss of two older mids spread out over two years.

We extract maximum value and we give Murphy (and Bolt) a chance at a flag next year. We give Gibbs (who is younger and will likely play longer) a chance at a flag the following year.

I would be OK with giving our fist pick this year to get the above done (perhaps with their first coming back to us - we've done pretty well with picks in the late teens the last few years).

Tigers will keep Martin at any price, franchise player.

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WHO THE @#$%&! IS HOOPER!?!

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Yeeesh



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Sorry, didnt read it correctly.
Murphy, Casboult and a first rounder for both of them? Not sure about that.

No brainer is correct. Buyer beware

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