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 Post subject: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:16 am 
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Looks like we have drafted the Hanson Brothers

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:19 am 
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kezza wrote:
After tonight's draft we now have 39 senior players on the list.
Wonder if we will go with an extra rookie or use a pick in the PSD on Monday.

And current rookirs are:
JGM
LeBois
ASOS?
Leaving room for 2?
OShea
Boek


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:28 am 
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Agro jr wrote:
I miss Bryce Gibbs.


We will miss him.
The trade will be defined by the development of Kennedy & O'Brien and our 4th rounder next year(sitting with Adelaide now). Forget the other pick changes.
Hopefully our boys make us forget quickly!


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:43 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Looks like we have drafted the Hanson Brothers


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:20 am 
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So, the Gibbs deal ended up...

Out: Gibbs, pick 16 (Ed Richards), pick 40 (Andrew McPherson, pick 77 (Billy Hartung), 2018 2nd and 3rd rounders

In: Lochie O'Brien, Matt Kennedy, Tom DeKoning, Angus Schumacher, 2018 2nd rounder


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 Post subject: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:25 am 
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Rexy wrote:
So, the Gibbs deal ended up...

Out: Gibbs, pick 16 (Ed Richards), pick 40 (Andrew McPherson, pick 77 (Billy Hartung), 2018 2nd and 3rd rounders

In: Lochie O'Brien, Matt Kennedy, Tom DeKoning, Angus Schumacher, 2018 2nd rounder


Who did we trade the pick 40 and 77 to? Did they use it?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:29 am 
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Interesting article in today HUN.
Said we had now had 3 drafts and pretty much put a bulldozer through the list.
We would enter a period of stabilisation and there would be minimal list changes next year.
Seems like we chose our new players based on needs rather than best players this draft.
By the way Buckenara said we were again one of the big winners.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:45 am 
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kezza wrote:
Interesting article in today HUN.
Said we had now had 3 drafts and pretty much put a bulldozer through the list.
We would enter a period of stabilisation and there would be minimal list changes next year.
Seems like we chose our new players based on needs rather than best players this draft.
By the way Buckenara said we were again one of the big winners.


http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/more-n ... 28cebc8083
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BUCKENARA SAYS: I really like Carlton’s first two picks — Paddy Dow and Lochie O’Brien are both really good players and will have a close bond from their time at Bendigo Pioneers. The one I want to talk about is Jarrod Garlett. He played 17 games for Gold Coast after being taken at pick 15 back in 2014 and departed the club for family reasons two years later. If he can successfully adjust to a full-time AFL environment at the Blues he will be a walk-up start in the best 22 and has the scope to be in the top 10 players on Carlton’s list. It’s a risk but he’s got serious tricks, enormous talent and class as a forward/midfielder. This could be an absolute masterstroke. Tom De Koning will take time but he could be that replacement for Matthew Kreuzer/Levi Casboult once he develops and he’s actually got a bit of x-factor about him because he’s so athletic for his size and has good skills. Dow and O’Brien should get senior opportunities next year, along with Garlett.

THE VERDICT: Carlton is again one of the big winners of the draft. If Garlett adjusts, the Blues will have picked up three first-round talents and future stars with just two top selections. In three years this could be this draft’s best haul.


www.news.com.au/sport/afl/teams/carlton ... 6a6150c9a0
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CARLTON’S three-year draft plan has come to fruition with the Blues set to cease their dramatic list changes and enter a new period of stabilisation next year.

The Blues have taken considerable steps to revamp a once flagging and ageing list, making 42 changes since Stephen Silvagni took over three years ago.

If list managers usually select picks and shovels to make the necessary tweaks in the post season, Silvagni went out and bought a bulldozer to accelerate Carlton’s list rebuild.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:48 am 
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The Normal One wrote:
Rexy wrote:
So, the Gibbs deal ended up...

Out: Gibbs, pick 16 (Ed Richards), pick 40 (Andrew McPherson, pick 77 (Billy Hartung), 2018 2nd and 3rd rounders

In: Lochie O'Brien, Matt Kennedy, Tom DeKoning, Angus Schumacher, 2018 2nd rounder


Who did we trade the pick 40 and 77 to? Did they use it?


#40 - Adelaide - Andrew McPherson

#77 - Norf - Billy Hartung


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:57 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
kezza wrote:
Interesting article in today HUN.
Said we had now had 3 drafts and pretty much put a bulldozer through the list.
We would enter a period of stabilisation and there would be minimal list changes next year.
Seems like we chose our new players based on needs rather than best players this draft.
By the way Buckenara said we were again one of the big winners.


http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/more-n ... 28cebc8083
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BUCKENARA SAYS: I really like Carlton’s first two picks — Paddy Dow and Lochie O’Brien are both really good players and will have a close bond from their time at Bendigo Pioneers. The one I want to talk about is Jarrod Garlett. He played 17 games for Gold Coast after being taken at pick 15 back in 2014 and departed the club for family reasons two years later. If he can successfully adjust to a full-time AFL environment at the Blues he will be a walk-up start in the best 22 and has the scope to be in the top 10 players on Carlton’s list. It’s a risk but he’s got serious tricks, enormous talent and class as a forward/midfielder. This could be an absolute masterstroke. Tom De Koning will take time but he could be that replacement for Matthew Kreuzer/Levi Casboult once he develops and he’s actually got a bit of x-factor about him because he’s so athletic for his size and has good skills. Dow and O’Brien should get senior opportunities next year, along with Garlett.

THE VERDICT: Carlton is again one of the big winners of the draft. If Garlett adjusts, the Blues will have picked up three first-round talents and future stars with just two top selections. In three years this could be this draft’s best haul.


http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/teams/ ... 6a6150c9a0
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CARLTON’S three-year draft plan has come to fruition with the Blues set to cease their dramatic list changes and enter a new period of stabilisation next year.

The Blues have taken considerable steps to revamp a once flagging and ageing list, making 42 changes since Stephen Silvagni took over three years ago.

If list managers usually select picks and shovels to make the necessary tweaks in the post season, Silvagni went out and bought a bulldozer to accelerate Carlton’s list rebuild.


I reckon we'll be throwing big dollars at a free agent next year and use our top pick to to trade for another big fish.

20+ quality players 24 and under is the stuff of dreams - now they have to make the list sing.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:58 am 
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I feel we have one more aggressive list change coming at the end of 2018.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2017
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:59 am 
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