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Author: | bluedog [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | 2016 - Season in Review |
May have been a 'reset' year (will have that confirmed in 3, 4, 5, 6 years...) but on its own, was quite a failure. Wins against Brisbane, Essendon*, Melbourne, Port, Geelong, Collingwood and Freo. Another year when we witnessed a fairly shallow pool of talent at the club. A few up-and-comers as well, but poor depth at the club overall. In particular, well done to Docherty, Weitering, Simmo and Cripps, and a few others. Gibbs reasonably solid, at times. E Curnow tries hard. I look forward to Silvagni's first victory. A couple of bad injuries, like most clubs I would think. Farewell to those departing Carlton. And please practise goal kicking in the off-season. I'll start getting excited when wins are consistently put on the board, because that's pretty much what it's all about. Good luck Blues, and keep working hard. |
Author: | Effes [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
Percentage: 2015: 64.78 2016: 79.27 Points for: 2015: 69.32 2016: 71.27 Points against: 2015: 107 2016: 89.91 |
Author: | bluedog [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
2014: 7 wins, 1 draw. For: 1891 Against: 2107 % 89.8 If that means anything. |
Author: | Rexy [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:09 pm ] |
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7 wins is ok for a list with only a handful of good consistent players. The first year players look to have legit talent thank goodness, just need Bolts to instill a winning attitude in them and hope they don't drop off like so many in the past who just pick and choose. |
Author: | moshe25 [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
bluedog wrote: May have been a 'reset' year (will have that confirmed in 3, 4, 5, 6 years...) but on its own, was quite a failure. Wins against Brisbane, Essendon**, Melbourne, Port, Geelong, Collingwood and Freo. Another year when we witnessed a fairly shallow pool of talent at the club. A few up-and-comers as well, but poor depth at the club overall. In particular, well done to Docherty, Weitering, Simmo and Cripps, and a few others. Gibbs reasonably solid, at times. E Curnow tries hard. I look forward to Silvagni's first victory. A couple of bad injuries, like most clubs I would think. Farewell to those departing Carlton. And please practise goal kicking in the off-season. I'll start getting excited when wins are consistently put on the board, because that's pretty much what it's all about. Good luck Blues, and keep working hard. You had me till "Gibbs reasonably solid". Lol |
Author: | Molly [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
Enough positives for me in the season: - we played a pretty competent brand of footy when our best players were up and about - docherty stepped up to the next level - the defence looked competent more often than not - four of the five draftees played and contributed good footy - the depth players we got in (Phillips, Lamb, Sumner, Kerridge) all did better than the players they replaced - we played a full season without Chris Judd - we seem to have a system where we can bring young players in with confidence that there will be a strong focus on their development The biggest disappointment was the draft and trade class of 2014. I know some people around here say we were trying to school Jacksch on intricacies of the game in the reserves. Let's hope so. Boekhorst was underwhelming, and it seemed pretty obvious early on that the papers of DVR, Foster, and Smith were stamped. Anyway, 12 more list changes coming, and with that should come more young talent onto the list. 2017 should be another incremental improvement. |
Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
Molly wrote: Enough positives for me in the season: - we played a pretty competent brand of footy when our best players were up and about - docherty stepped up to the next level - the defence looked competent more often than not - four of the five draftees played and contributed good footy - the depth players we got in (Phillips, Lamb, Sumner, Kerridge) all did better than the players they replaced - we played a full season without Chris Judd - we seem to have a system where we can bring young players in with confidence that there will be a strong focus on their development The biggest disappointment was losing to the Chinese Swim team in R23 |
Author: | bluedog [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
moshe25 wrote: bluedog wrote: May have been a 'reset' year (will have that confirmed in 3, 4, 5, 6 years...) but on its own, was quite a failure. Wins against Brisbane, Essendon***, Melbourne, Port, Geelong, Collingwood and Freo. Another year when we witnessed a fairly shallow pool of talent at the club. A few up-and-comers as well, but poor depth at the club overall. In particular, well done to Docherty, Weitering, Simmo and Cripps, and a few others. Gibbs reasonably solid, at times. E Curnow tries hard. I look forward to Silvagni's first victory. A couple of bad injuries, like most clubs I would think. Farewell to those departing Carlton. And please practise goal kicking in the off-season. I'll start getting excited when wins are consistently put on the board, because that's pretty much what it's all about. Good luck Blues, and keep working hard. You had me till "Gibbs reasonably solid". Lol ...at times. No??? OK - very good, at times. |
Author: | 99prelim [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
moshe25 wrote: bluedog wrote: May have been a 'reset' year (will have that confirmed in 3, 4, 5, 6 years...) but on its own, was quite a failure. Wins against Brisbane, Essendon***, Melbourne, Port, Geelong, Collingwood and Freo. Another year when we witnessed a fairly shallow pool of talent at the club. A few up-and-comers as well, but poor depth at the club overall. In particular, well done to Docherty, Weitering, Simmo and Cripps, and a few others. Gibbs reasonably solid, at times. E Curnow tries hard. I look forward to Silvagni's first victory. A couple of bad injuries, like most clubs I would think. Farewell to those departing Carlton. And please practise goal kicking in the off-season. I'll start getting excited when wins are consistently put on the board, because that's pretty much what it's all about. Good luck Blues, and keep working hard. You had me till "Gibbs reasonably solid". Lol ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | london blue [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
Two positives Leadership group had good years (exception the injured captain) Ex Harry - plenty to like about our draft picks Negative - outside of the above - No depth - it's improved....but still some ways to go. |
Author: | bluemagic16 [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
Nobody will be more disappointed with how the season tailed off than Bolts.. We are in the right hands we made positive steps forward lack of depth caused us to tire in the second half of the season. We have a lot of dead wood which didnt allow Bolts to rotate the team as much as he would have liked leaving the core 25-6 that played to tire out and we still have a lot of growth left. DVR, Smith, Foster, Wood, Jaksch, Gowers, Tutt played 4 games between them (KJ -1, Tutt - 3) They are all gone, their inability to break into the side did not allow us to rotate and lesson the loads of the core group. People today going off on Plowman was incredible, the kid gave us a solid season considering how much footy he played this year in comparison to what he did at GWS. He was solid all year again clearly was a tired player come the back half of the season. Bolts will be all over it as of tonight planing for ways to improve the team. We are in the right hands, Essendon* have been competitive all year and beaten better teams than us, the timing of it leaves a bad taste in your mouth but we need to put into perspective. Buckanara said we were 7 years away pre season so shows you what the external expectation were for us. We tired, we lacked depth, we missed our skipper. We will improve everybody just needs to put the season in perspective. |
Author: | Humpers [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
Molly wrote: Enough positives for me in the season: - four of the five draftees played and contributed good footy - the depth players we got in (Phillips, Lamb, Sumner, Kerridge) all did better than the players they replaced The biggest disappointment was the draft and trade class of 2014. I know some people around here say we were trying to school Jacksch on intricacies of the game in the reserves. Let's hope so. Boekhorst was underwhelming, and it seemed pretty obvious early on that the papers of DVR, Foster, and Smith were stamped. Anyway, 12 more list changes coming, and with that should come more young talent onto the list. 2017 should be another incremental improvement. Well put Molly. |
Author: | Rod Waddell [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
The tired excuse wears a bit thin....was Essendon* tired? Did they rotate more players throughout the season? Was their 2016 list better than ours? We make too many excuses for our team. The inconsistent intensity, endeavour & application is the biggest concern at our club. |
Author: | billc3 [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
Rod Waddell wrote: The tired excuse wears a bit thin....was Essendon** tired? Did they rotate more players throughout the season? Was their 2016 list better than ours? We make too many excuses for our team. The inconsistent intensity, endeavour & application is the biggest concern at our club. Spot...on... |
Author: | bluemagic16 [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
Rod Waddell wrote: The tired excuse wears a bit thin....was Essendon** tired? Did they rotate more players throughout the season? Was their 2016 list better than ours? We make too many excuses for our team. The inconsistent intensity, endeavour & application is the biggest concern at our club. Do you think Bolts doesn't understand that? This season was as much about learning where we are really at than anything else. |
Author: | Teddy Hopkins [ Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
We have an innovative coach. Start of fourth quarter today 8 players started behind centre square and 4 forwards, 3 of them marking. Runners behind centre all ran forward and there was actually movement and excitement for awhile. Even with 2 unattended outriders the cheats were in trouble. If we had decent kicking players we may have stolen the game. BB our biggest recruit and improvement for 2016. |
Author: | AIRCAV [ Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
One of the biggest positives for me is just how fit we were and how we managed to fight out games, even those where we'd been thrashed early. How many times before this year have we seen 5 goal deficits blow out to 10+? But instead this year we saw lots of fight, and running out of games. Yes it was disappointing that we had let the game slip early, but great to see fight and fitness emerge. Of the last q's, We won 10, lost 11 and drew 1. yes one could argue that the game was 'over', but at least we kept having a crack. |
Author: | Wet Willie [ Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 - Season in Review |
Bolt's message in the final presser was good. We actually have a clear road to travel... If we had won by 10 goals and Bolt/Jones/Daisy/Everett had played one for the ages etc - it would have sugar coated the season and made everything more complicated. Cuts will be made to the list easily as we head to the draft with no mixed messages, and move into phase two with clear direction. Bring it... |
Author: | Rexy [ Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:48 am ] |
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There's been numerous signs from Bolton this year that he's the real deal re ridding the list of poor attitudes. That's the positive for me. |
Author: | cimm1979 [ Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:01 am ] |
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Rexy wrote: There's been numerous signs from Bolton this year that he's the real deal re ridding the list of poor attitudes. That's the positive for me. Contrast that to Damien Hardwicks year and even yesterday . He's made excuses for his team, laughed and joked about the season and goes on to say how good the list is and virtually guaranteed playing finals next year. His team were humiliated yesterday and he turns up at the presser like he's high! The Tiger fans are pulling their hair out. |
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