So they are going at about 20% better than Carlton, then?

Wins and losses are just one way to measure progress. You should listen to the coach. We are not about measuring wins and losses, we are looking for improvement. Well we beat Brisbane easily last time and this time we lost.

Our playing style has regressed in the past two months to the MM round the boundary and kick it long to a contest. For two months we played fast, attacking, run and carry, exciting football. We even won some games but then we stopped playing that way and winning.

The players love the coach and that's great but it doesn't compensate for a defensive setup that leaks goals like a sieve.
StKilda broke the WR for inside fifty marks last week and many of them were uncontested.
Brisbane had their best quarter since 2014 tonight and had a shitload of uncontested possessions inside fifty.

Are you happy with that?
We have wone more games. We are higher on the ladder. Our percentage is better because we haven't had a 100 point shellacking. They're just numbers. I'm worried about the style of play we have reverted to.

We have gone from embarassment to laughing stock in the space of a week............reckon us oldtime supporters are entitled to ask............when is it going to end.We are young,we are developing,we have heard it over and over till it makes you want to vomit..................that was a woefull effort up there today.PS Bolts.your gameplan was fine a couple of months back.Guess what ! everyone is onto it.That press is fine but that gaping hole you are leaving in the guts is heaven to our opponents.They cant believe how easy it is to waltz through their.

Got great respect for you input Effes.You do a great job..............BUT..........gameplans are there to be exploited.And ours has been shredded for two months now.Ya gotta tinker and evolve.Hate to say it,but Bolts has shown himself to be the least imaginative coach in the comp right now.That should have been a walk in the park up there.Leppitsch himself admitted half of his side is not AFL standard.A bunch of second and third rate novices ran rings around us.Dont want to get into a quarrel with a guy of your standing Effes,but anyway you dress it up that was a atrocious performance.....................however,one thing you and i have Effes is never ending hope.But that brainstrust needs a good hard look at itself.

Wins and losses are just one way to measure progress. You should listen to the coach. We are not about measuring wins and losses, we are looking for improvement. Well we beat Brisbane easily last time and this time we lost.

Our playing style has regressed in the past two months to the MM round the boundary and kick it long to a contest. For two months we played fast, attacking, run and carry, exciting football. We even won some games but then we stopped playing that way and winning.

The players love the coach and that's great but it doesn't compensate for a defensive setup that leaks goals like a sieve.
StKilda broke the WR for inside fifty marks last week and many of them were uncontested.
Brisbane had their best quarter since 2014 tonight and had a shitload of uncontested possessions inside fifty.

Are you happy with that?
We have wone more games. We are higher on the ladder. Our percentage is better because we haven't had a 100 point shellacking. They're just numbers. I'm worried about the style of play we have reverted to.

Put the whole post in Paf..................that sort of stuff is a cheap shot by a sneaky sniper.Sort of like talking around corners.

Improving over the season but last week and the first half this week was a throwback to 2015 in terms of effort execution and team cohesion

Still far too many one dimensional unskilled players another big clean out coming

Overall year so far a plus but if we lose to demons and then bummers will be a really dispiriting 11weeks where we couldn't fall crawl or get over the line should be able surely to win one game in the last 11weeks an indictment on a playing list that beat Geelong Port and the Carringbush earlier in the year

Good that we have introduced most of our draft picks and given them a taste
Still think Plowman Philips and Sumner will become players
Still a long way to go and need to have another good off season

We were always having another clean out, and will again in 2017. 66 games is the rebuild period remember. We are in a better spot than any other rebuild we have done.

Got great respect for you input Effes.You do a great job..............BUT..........gameplans are there to be exploited.And ours has been shredded for two months now.Ya gotta tinker and evolve.Hate to say it,but Bolts has shown himself to be the least imaginative coach in the comp right now.That should have been a walk in the park up there.Leppitsch himself admitted half of his side is not AFL standard.A bunch of second and third rate novices ran rings around us.Dont want to get into a quarrel with a guy of your standing Effes,but anyway you dress it up that was a atrocious performance.....................however,one thing you and i have Effes is never ending hope.But that brainstrust needs a good hard look at itself.

Don't be so precious, it's just a quick way to get to the point. People need some perspective and if it takes a bit of facetiousness to help out, then so be it.

I think Jarusa, CK95, tommi, pheonixjohnson, CarltonGod, Obscuratron, Blueseum, molsey and steve are in it.

Harmes was out

This talk of "we were playing plan X then, and won, and are playing plan Y now and lose" is overly simplistic. There are periods within a game where you need to play defensively (as the opposition gets momentum) and periods when you have the momentum/run yourself, and can play accordingly. There may also be opposition who are better at stopping a run-and-carry style, and teams that are vulnerable to long kicks. I think we've seen multiple styles of play this year for the simple reason that BB is seeing who on our list can effectively execute different styles/positions, and who are one dimensional. BB, SOS and co already know who's staying, who's going... and WHY. We'll see massive turnover again at the end of this year, and then again next year.

I along with a few other posters have bagged the shit out of this club for the past 10 years why
The one man saviour philosophy
Living on past glories
Handed jobs to afl icons without a proper process
Quick fixes
Poor recruiting and trades
Now I ain't blaming sticks for everything but since his leaving have things improved
I'm 53 worked many jobs
Once simple fact
The most important fact is if the boss is shit the workplace will be shit
If the boss is good the workplace will be good
Our president may not be the best in front of a camera but old Marky knows what he is doing and isn't refreshing to see
And another thing I've learnt is success comes from the most unlikely sources

Let's be honest Bolton doesn't fit the old Carlton head coaching mould
He looks more suited to delivering newspapers from a school bag
But that all changes when you see his body language tone of voice and how he speaks
He speaks directly in a succint manner he cares for people

Compare that to Malthouse the total opposite
And yet Bolton is on under half on what Malthouse got and can only be paid out a month after he is sacked
Ironic hey
But that's life
Bolton was the correct appointment but the club had a proper review process with an astute varied panel
Silvangi has returned since sticks has left and are recruiting has improved 200%

We are back
Sure we will have some bad games. That will happen with such a long intense season but finally after years of keystone cops where getting it right

One guy I have been bagging the shit out of for a long time is Bryce Gibbs
Obviously a very talented player his lack of intensity and selfishness has frustrated the hell out of me
To see him assume the onfield leadership on Sunday after Murph went down was fantastic
To seem give White a hug after another effort to keep the ball in our forward nearly brought a tear to the eye
I guarantee you that Guys of Gibbs experience at Carlton will be saying to one another
Is this what should happen at a footy club
I can tell you whether it's at the game or in front of the box it's great to scream like a delinquent
Once again
Ive got the passion back cause I know where on the right path
Go blues