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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:18 pm 
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Premature expectations.


Billings would've helped

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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:58 pm 
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Keogh has gone early like 14 year old kid watching a flower magazine

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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:08 pm 
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I know we're going to get a lot of the old "If someone had told me we'd be 6 and 6 come round 12 I'd I have taken it" crap.


But today was extremely frustrating and disappointing.


We've been losing these types of games for years - does the 94 Qualifying final ring any bells?


We should have put our foot to St Kilda's throat today.

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Very true agro. I look at sides like Sydney and on the whole, they are good sides over a long period of time because they win games they are expected to win. OK, Richmond after the siren and similar aside.

Sides that cause upsets then lose to sides they're expected to beat are some way off.

Even if hawthorn get rolled by Richmond more than they should...

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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:26 am 
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Sides like Sydney win games they are expected to win a lot of time purely due to talent. A more talented list can get away with not bringing the same intensity and pressure into every game and getting away with the 4 points. A team like ourselves is only going to get away with it against the very bottom sides, as today showed.

I don't see the simalarities between today and '94. That side was a gunning for a flag, and 12 months later did so. This one is on a reset, and was playing a side that are at least 2 years ahead of the process despite going in with a younger side. They almost knocked off Hawthorn and Nth, thrashed Melbourne and have wins against similar sides as us in Coll, Essendon* and Freo.

They were missing Reiwoldt, Dempster and Fisher but not a lot else. McCartin and Goddard is like saying we were missing Curnow and McKay. They are just kids.

Their midfield goes deeper than ours, they have a 50 goal a year forward in Bruce, and another on track to do something similar in Membrey. Our best forward's highest return for a year is 24. Their Ruckman is coming into his prime, whilst ours is undersized and battling to get through week to week.

I'm not sure where - on paper - you could say we had a clear advantage over the team they put out today.

Today was poor, and can't be glossed over, but it was hardly the upset of the century....

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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:00 am 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
Sides like Sydney win games they are expected to win a lot of time purely due to talent. A more talented list can get away with not bringing the same intensity and pressure into every game and getting away with the 4 points. A team like ourselves is only going to get away with it against the very bottom sides, as today showed.

I don't see the simalarities between today and '94. That side was a gunning for a flag, and 12 months later did so. This one is on a reset, and was playing a side that are at least 2 years ahead of the process despite going in with a younger side. They almost knocked off Hawthorn and Nth, thrashed Melbourne and have wins against similar sides as us in Coll, Essendon** and Freo.

They were missing Reiwoldt, Dempster and Fisher but not a lot else. McCartin and Goddard is like saying we were missing Curnow and McKay. They are just kids.

Their midfield goes deeper than ours, they have a 50 goal a year forward in Bruce, and another on track to do something similar in Membrey. Our best forward's highest return for a year is 24. Their Ruckman is coming into his prime, whilst ours is undersized and battling to get through week to week.

I'm not sure where - on paper - you could say we had a clear advantage over the team they put out today.

Today was poor, and can't be glossed over, but it was hardly the upset of the century....


Very good points

This club and it's supporters has a habit of over estimating it's abilities

That mentality was starting to seep in over the last few weeks as evidenced by many of the posts on this site

Can't afford to go down that road again. It's pretty obvious there are players in our best 22 that will need to be phased out. There is no hiding from that fact

The days of maintaining average players on our list for too long are over

I am confident our coach thinks likewise


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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:47 am 
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Clayman wrote:
Keogh has gone early like 14 year old kid watching a flower magazine

:grin:
"We were back" thread on its way

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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:31 pm 
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Something tells me BB wouldn't have minded the loss in a twisted sort of way.

No more feel good stories about our rapid ascension.

Back to rolling sleeves up and learning the game plan through the lens of effort and pressure without the constant backslappers

As someone else pointed out, Gibbs has had his 2 RDO's. Time to get back to work and support Simmo to make a fist of the GWS game in a fortnight

10 wins should be our new pass mark for the year

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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:35 am 
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We are back
Sunday's result doesn't mean the opposite

No more quick fixes
No more sticks
No more old Carlton
There is no hope for success if those things return

Looking forward to the Giants game
Want to see Phillips and Silvangi in the side
Gowers looks like he may be a player to be promoted from the rookie list
Things are looking good

The club has changed in its culture
That's the key


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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:23 pm 
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Mid-season report: Carlton become overachievers

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/m ... pjd7v.html

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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:27 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Mark J wrote:
Look
I don't know who's who.....nor do I care
But that photo confirms my suspicions
Anyone who wears 3/4 length pants is an absolute wanker.

Goodnight!


THEY WERE LONG SHORTS


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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:34 pm 
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I reckon this season is 2004 all over again, so to see a pic of the doyens of TC from ten plus years ago is quite fitting.

Now come on... don't be shy. Who is in the picture?


I think Jarusa, CK95, tommi, pheonixjohnson, CarltonGod, Obscuratron, Blueseum, molsey and steve are in it.


Plus Deano Supremo and Tyrants 4 Death (the Tyrant).

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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:24 pm 
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keogh wrote:
We are back
Sunday's result doesn't mean the opposite

No more quick fixes
No more sticks
No more old Carlton
There is no hope for success if those things return

Looking forward to the Giants game
Want to see Phillips and Silvangi in the side
Gowers looks like he may be a player to be promoted from the rookie list
Things are looking good

The club has changed in its culture
That's the key


I also don't think when you said we were back that we would never lose a game again.

Our list hasn't magically come good, its just not as bad as first thought.

I still think its probably not until 2019 we could realistically claim to be a bone fide finals team


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 Post subject: We are back
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:55 pm 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
keogh wrote:
We are back
Sunday's result doesn't mean the opposite

No more quick fixes
No more sticks
No more old Carlton
There is no hope for success if those things return

Looking forward to the Giants game
Want to see Phillips and Silvangi in the side
Gowers looks like he may be a player to be promoted from the rookie list
Things are looking good

The club has changed in its culture
That's the key


I also don't think when you said we were back that we would never lose a game again.

Our list hasn't magically come good, its just not as bad as first thought.

I still think its probably not until 2019 we could realistically claim to be a bone fide finals team


Our list isnt " bad " unless you are comparing us to a top 4 side. Does freo have a bad list? The competition is as even as ever this year, i genuinely believe that anyone in the eight can win this year. Stkilda beat us. We beat Geelong.
Lets not judge our list on one match. Sure its not perfect, but it is not " bad"


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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:47 pm 
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padre wrote:
Adam Chatfield wrote:
keogh wrote:
We are back
Sunday's result doesn't mean the opposite

No more quick fixes
No more sticks
No more old Carlton
There is no hope for success if those things return

Looking forward to the Giants game
Want to see Phillips and Silvangi in the side
Gowers looks like he may be a player to be promoted from the rookie list
Things are looking good

The club has changed in its culture
That's the key


Exactly Padre :thumbsup:

All depends on whose up and about, hasn't travelled, and has a healthy list....if not depth counts.

Enable to "endure the ultimate effort"....didn't mention umpires...they have been kinder to us this year...the Bolton effect.

I also don't think when you said we were back that we would never lose a game again.

Our list hasn't magically come good, its just not as bad as first thought.

I still think its probably not until 2019 we could realistically claim to be a bone fide finals team


Our list isnt " bad " unless you are comparing us to a top 4 side. Does freo have a bad list? The competition is as even as ever this year, i genuinely believe that anyone in the eight can win this year. Stkilda beat us. We beat Geelong.
Lets not judge our list on one match. Sure its not perfect, but it is not " bad"

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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:50 pm 
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Every time I see the name Malthouse I think of our demise.
Reminds me of bad leadership, a coach in the dark ages, and a Board with no balls, let alone direction.

He's gone and "the world is our finals" campaign with Bolton...or something like that.

Malthouse...flower...figjam.

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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:54 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Every time I see the name Malthouse I think of our demise.
Reminds me of bad leadership, a coach in the dark ages, and a Board with no balls, let alone direction.

He's gone and "the world is our finals" campaign with Bolton...or something like that.

Malthouse...flower...figjam.


Do you also blame the national debt on Turnbull


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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:43 pm 
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Michael Jezz wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Every time I see the name Malthouse I think of our demise.
Reminds me of bad leadership, a coach in the dark ages, and a Board with no balls, let alone direction.

He's gone and "the world is our finals" campaign with Bolton...or something like that.

Malthouse...flower...figjam.


Do you also blame the national debt on Turnbull


Nah! He's my client. I like him and Lucy.

I don't like Malthouse.
Unfortuanely I have yo get use to him in the media giving us his godly opinion

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 Post subject: Re: We are back
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:55 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Every time I see the name Malthouse I think of our demise.
Reminds me of bad leadership, a coach in the dark ages, and a Board with no balls, let alone direction.

He's gone and "the world is our finals" campaign with Bolton...or something like that.

Malthouse...flower...figjam.


Do you also blame the national debt on Turnbull


Nah! He's my client. I like him and Lucy.

I don't like Malthouse.
Unfortuanely I have yo get use to him in the media giving us his godly opinion


So it was you who put together Turnbull's invite list for the Ramadan dinner with Sheik Shady? :razz:


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 Post subject: Re: We are back
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Madhouse and Turnbull can hold hands and go and play in the sand together as far as I am concerned.

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