I was about to type Diesel and couldnt.

Then I was about to do the same for Juddy and couldnt.

93 Diesel was robbed...dunno why AFL or Fraud squad didnt charge the [REDACTED] umpire ..what's his name?...who threatened the junior ump who was going to give Diesel a vote for his dominant 44 possession game/

Juddy should have won the year Swan did, and so he was ripped off too.

Diesudd

Yeah, but Swan should've won 5he year Judd did so it all evens up.

We also didn't have to sell the farm to get him. The problem with the Judd trade in comparison is that I am not even sure we came out ahead in that trade. Easy to say in hindsight but that script is yet to be written until all of the players involved retire. The fact is that WCE made a GF with two the players in that trade being central figures. We came nowhere close to that.

That's an unfair comparison and sort of implies we could have made a GF with Kennedy and pick #4.

I agree the Diesel trade was better because of the reasons stated.

However, the Judd trade was the right thing for the club to do at the time.

The sad reality is Judd was joining a much worse team, and importantly, a much worse club than the environment Diesel found himself in.

Imagine Judd in his mid-20s arrivng at Carlton at the same time Diesel did. Oh boy wowee!

As I recall we traded Ashley Matthews and Peter Sartori to Fitzroy in exchange for Darren Kappler who we then on traded to Sydney. Did we also send up Warren McKenzie up to Sydney as well?

There must have been a draft pick or two involved as well.

Whichever way the Williams trade was, it worked out as more players and draft picks out of the club than the Judd Trade.