be interesting if you guys are wrong and if bolton is deemed a failed appointment to see how you handle that.

The reality is mate, none of us know how much of our 1 win season is down to injuries, and how much is from poor or failed coaching.

everything will be revealed next season i guess. but, i have a question specifically for you, blue vein and trigger.

with a healthy list to choose from next season. and with the development of our star picks and improved game plan. How many wins next year get a pass mark form you guys? Where on the ladder in your opinions, should we be finishing?


Next season; I'll happily stand here and declare i was wrong about bolton should we climb the table and threaten the top 8 next season. I'll also apologise for bashing everyone's ears in about bolton being in over his head and a bad choice for coach.


be interesting if you guys are wrong and if bolton is deemed a failed appointment to see how you handle that.




there's a few.

Weitering, SPS, Plowman, Jack, and Marchbank all looked to have regressed on what they delivered last year.

off the top of my head, the rest of the list have mostly stagnated, and only charlie, fish and Cripps looked to have raised their games/ developed from last season?

If you honestly think we will be pushing for the 8 next year then you may as well start following another team if that's the result you want.

Have you not been listening? Even without injuries, we still need more than Cripps and Doc as our A grade 23-28yo and I can't see SOS getting 3-5 of them for pick 1 nor our kids all of a sudden having another 50 games experience over the summer. And I definitely can't see our 30 plus yo all of a sudden getting faster, less injuries and playing the best games of their lives. Nobody here wants us to be on the bottom but FFS be realistic.

WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND:
1. Nothing is linear and kids take time.
2. A virtually injury free team will bring results, like last year.
3. Believe it or not, other teams will improve.
4. Watch the SOS interview again with a positive attitude and actually listen to what he has said. It's from the horses mouth.
5. Essendon*** brought in experienced/retired players and found 1 talent out of the whole exercise. We are not Essendon***, we have kids and lots of them with kid bodies.
6. What effect due to injuries (especially to the core players) have? - We are down 4 games from this time last year and Adelaide are down 5, it actually can't be clearer. So if you want to judge our game plan and coach then surely they also need to look at sacking their coach too?

How many games you ask 6-8 would be a "great" result and finishing 15-16th would be a "great" result.

And as far as your worries about our kids you actually should think before you just flop names out there.
Weitering - Injured
Plowman - Injured
Marchbank - Injured
Jack - Injured
SPS - Not sure but maybe him and Plowman are only going to be second tier team players that do 5-8 great things in a game and need support to play at their best.

I actually feel sorry for you and a few others here that have unrealistic top 8 expectations, because as it has been previously stated, you're in for a tough year next year.

Williamson - gone backwards this year - hardly sighted.

McReadie - gone backwards this year - hardly sighted

De Koning - massively disappointed, hasn't played a single game this year

Cunnginham - worst season ever for him


and look, I hate to say this, but...but I think Doc has gone backwards this year! There I said it. He was a gun last year...but this year pfft...hardly sighted.

Williamson - gone backwards this year - hardly sighted.

McReadie - gone backwards this year - hardly sighted

De Koning - massively disappointed, hasn't played a single game this year

Cunnginham - worst season ever for him


and look, I hate to say this, but...but I think Doc has gone backwards this year! There I said it. He was a gun last year...but this year pfft...hardly sighted.

OMG.
and where is Carazzo???????
Deliberately holding him back.

Who 21 and under has and hasn't improved during this year?

Cuningham -1 (injuries have not helped)
C Curnow +1
T De Konning 0
P Dow +1
Z Fisher +1
J Glass-McCasker -1
P Kerr +1
K Lebois 0
H Macredie -1
C Marchbank 0
H McKay +1
L O'Brien +1
S Petrevski-Seton +1
J Pickett 0
C Polson 0
A Schumacher 0
J Silvagni -1
J Weitering 0
T Williamson 0

Yeah, that's so he can be a lock for the NRS.

Macreadie hater !

Unless we can get some mature age quality midfielders next year we will have only a slight increase in wins. For mine a 3-4 win year is where we are at for next year assuming no trades of substance.

they replaced their banned players with players who had total of 1059 games experience between them.

And yet when anyone points out that our team isn't really that young/inexperienced, it's "oh they don't count, they were just intended to be NB list cloggers, we don't REALLY have any experience..."

Clueless!

IMHO, it comes down to player availability BC. If we get a reasonable run of player availability, I believe we can be up around 8 wins and knocking on the door of finals in 2020.
If we're not competing for a finals spot in 2020, I'd question the performance of our list rebuild and/or player development.