haha ... typical shit response from the jet. likes to potshot, but hates to put his lollies on the line.





Sooooo. last season we win 6, and were leading in another 7 games in the final quarter. could have easily won 10 games, yeah? next season with a full, healthy list, why not push for 8th, 9th? after all, 11 wins gets you in the final 8.

i mean if you're all so convinced bolton is the coach for us and he's just been dealt a crap hand with injuries, why not push for 11 wins?

Let’s go all the way ...

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It’s pretty silly and cheap isn’t it. SPS has in fact improved on last year but for various reasons he’s playing different roles.

Carltons supporters shouldnt be having this discussion this year.
Its not fair. He didnt trade Gibbs or Tuohy

You need a lot of other things going right for you that Bolton isn't in control of.

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Let's look at the positives - thankfully it's only an 18 team comp. We could be 24th.

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You think bullshitting and pretending to have inside word is putting your "lollies on the line"?
If you're going to make up stories, do it for something constructive. Using your bullshit to bag the coach and the club is tiresome.

I don't mind reading criticism of the club. Sydney Blue, The Duke, Redback and several others are harsh critics but they base their criticisms on their honest beliefs.
When posters blatantly fabricate nonsense to push their agendas, there's no respect there. You've come out with a record amount of untrue and uninformed rubbish this week that clouds the debate. Surely if Bolton was such a poor coach, there wouldn't be a need to lie about it.
Criticise as much as you want but try the facts for a change.

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haha. you sound salty mate. have a bad week, did we?


not sure what you consider bullshit or fabricated?

I work in media, so hear privy bits here & there which obviously is taken with a grain of salt ... one of my best mate's oldman played for the club and still is in contact lots of old blues from his era who still have lots to do with the club. and i have a few mates who are ex afl players and in coaching - albeit line coaches. a common theme among all of them is bolton is struggling right now to reach the players and while it's speculation that's bocs he never played afl ... it also makes sense, at least to me. cornes got his info from the same guys i talk to, and he thought it had enough legs to write & talk about it in the media.

also lots of talk silvagni (since the freo game) isn't sold on bolton remaining coach ... time will tell with all of it, though. if the list gets healthy and bolton reveals himself to be a gun coach, i have no problem at all saying i was wrong.

so chin up old mate. it's just the internet, a place where banter goes down whether you approve of it or not.

So tired....so very tired.....

Anyone else feel the same way?

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Poster A makes up crap..... poster B goes in hard on poster A with OTT heavy handed slapdown.... poster A fires back with same..... thread degenerates and other posters are put off.... wash rinse repeat... *yawn*

So are you saying you thought we would be playing finals in the 4th year of the rebuild? So Bolts now has to take a total rebuild and have them in the finals in their 4th year.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Not that I give a shit either way, but I'm not sure that aligning yourself with Kane "I make shit up" Cornes enhances your position....

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I’m sure the same people probably had Dimma on the chopping block 18 months ago.

meh ... you should know as much as anyone OR, that the talk and whispers never stop in afl. ex players and coaches and media all love a theory or a scoop. not sure why people deny the talk is happening or want to call BS on stuff they don't like hearing.


one thing I agree with you on is ... i don't give a shit either way.


the club is a little lost right now. internally and privately not everyone is sold on the coaching and the way we've gone about the rebuild, but we're already committed to seeing it out. but for sure some are flinching. The vet is gone, the board has been shuffled about, they botched the whole going public with the PP thing.

hawthorn had lots of doubts and moments where internally everyone were cannibalising each other in their rebuild. let's just hope CFC come out the other side of our reset more comparable to the hawks and not like say st kilda who imo, are in worse shape than us.





Bang on

They probably did - that was when he'd made 2 finals series in a row then dropped to 8 wins to finish 13th.

Lucky bastards - I wish we could 'drop' to 8 wins. At this rate, we won't have 8 wins until 2026.

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And if someone wants to use Bomber Thompson as another example - his worst year was 7 wins in 2003.

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and i think they have both gone down the same path

Two minds on this one Don. I like the debate, but once it turns to personal attacks then it gets a bit boring. Even the debate can become pointless if one side won't acknowledge the other's point.

There was a good example just the other day. Someone, (can't remember who), was slamming Carlton for not patrolling the Geelong leagues thoroughly enough and subsequently missing out on a "cheap" quality player in Tom Stewart. Ocam's R penned an excellent reply pointing out that he actually went for a second round pick. We used our second round pick for Fisher, (albeit a bit earlier than Geelongs). Stewart is 25, Fisher's just turned 20. No way would I swap.

After this point was made the flaming continued unabated.

I can't see the point of that.

I must as I dislike "Shock Jock" Cornes he would here more than all of us put together. How he chooses to express it is another thing but on this one he is right. History of coaches of Victorian clubs who have never played at the highest level is terrible. That was his theme more than having a direct crack at Bolton. He just used Bolts as an example as we are on the bottom almost winless and totally embarrassing right now. Malcolm Blight agreed with him that night.

Since 2000, the number of coaches who coached a wooden spoon who then went on to win a flag - 0.

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Could probably go back even further.