Correct. If you take a list that has 17 players who you can bet your house are guaranteed to give you the three things you mentioned (effort, commitment, tackling) and have 7-8 of those out of the side injured then of course you will see a distinct difference from last season. Duh!

What hasn't changed Braithy? That's right. The coach. No change from last season. So I can't fathom how you blame the coach and not the injuries in your original post that started this exchange between us.

By the way I always enjoy your posts regardless of if I agree with your point of view.

I reject that. I'm happy for you to prove me wrong. Show me the posts.

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How many on our list? 44?

We have 29 to choose from this week.

That makes 2 of us....

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haha ... and me of yours & everyone's in here. healthy discussion when we're staying on topic and not tearing at each other is about the only thing which gets me through seasons like this (and the last 20 or so) ...

and for the record i hope i am horribly wrong about bolton being a contending coach with a full (& more developed) list at his disposal. Obviously i think there's more chance of me winning powerball than that. but sheesh, i'd love to be wrong.

That's been pretty much every week this year to date.

Barker to GWS?
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Please God make this happen....

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Why?

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Because we're still so poorly drilled, even after 3 years. We were so poorly drilled that the week before a side with 16-17 men killed us 7 goals to 1 in that last qtr and somehow outnumbered us everywhere. That, combined with the lack of effort in alot of games tell you the coach is not getting through to the players. 3 wins from the last 30 games tells a big story, injuries or not. We're better than that. If people are happy with that coaching they're very easily pleased and set low standards.

It doesn't matter how many times you say it. It's the same uninformed bullshit that it was the first time.

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16 - less than a minute
17 - approx 8 minutes

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

So is that 9 minutes out of a 20 minute quater (nearly 50%) or 9 minutes out of approx 30 minutes?

no idea to be honest

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

It doesn't matter. The reality is he has continually said they scored 7 goals to 1 with less players on the ground which is bullshit. And when he's pulled up on it, he continues to say it.
We've had a crap year. Surely theres enough for people to whinge about without fabricating stuff to be outraged about.

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We had a numbers advantage for best part of a half a quarter and couldn't exploit it.
If the situation was reversed we would use this as an excuse for losing and it most likely would have been 10 plus goals to 1.
We lost Kruezer and Kennedy round 1 and 20 weeks later have not recovered and have been using injuries as an excuse all season and yet given an opportunity to gain an advantage we couldn't do it.
We are the poorest coached side in the comp sooner we realise that the better off we will be.
It's not just Bolton it is the entire coaching group

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That part is true.
The rest of your post is supposition so I'm not debating it. It's your view. I disagree.

My post was debunking the lie that we were outscored 7 goals to 1 with 16 players.

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My issue with the coaching is the lack of strategy off half back.

You can get done at stoppages simply because you don't have the talent there.
You can leak goals when the ball is coming in quickly with little pressure because of the above.

But when we have the ball we so often lack the ability to switch quickly to create space, or find a contest and place the ball to advantage, or have our half forwards make space/block/decoy for Curnow or McKay. I think that is something all the players should be well drilled in even if they are young or coming in from the seconds.

We cough it up on the wing at a contest we are outnumbered at and then the opposition switch into the corridor where they have a free man. Yes there may be a poorly executed kick that caused the turnover but how do we end up both outnumbered at the contest and they still have a free player in the corridor? Either the tactic is poor or players don't understand it. Fix one of them.

One thing Bolton did understand was the value of Gibbs. Happy to be corrected if I am wrong but I remember hearing he was against the first attempt to poach Gibbs because he knew what would happen to our midfield. Well, he was right.

I agree with the trade as a long term strategy but I guess did not see how bad the short term pain would be with Gibbs gone, then compounded further by losing Docherty.

todd, do you think perhaps this might have something to do with our quickest and most skillful half backs (Docherty, Williamson and Byrne) being injured all year?

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It certainly does and that is why I cut some slack about kicking ability. But the point is both the players out there kicking it (Byrne, Ed Curnow, Lang, Thomas, Simpson, Murphy, gulp Kerridge) or the players up the field (Pickett, Wright, Curnow, McKay) don't appear to be well drilled enough to create space or coordinated enough to get to the right spots with numbers if we have to go to a contest. So we chip across with four 20m kicks from one half back to the other then kick it to a contest on the wing where we are outnumbered whilst they still have a player free in the middle.