Personnel issues aside, a percentage of 63 strongly suggests that whatever we are trying to do is failing miserably.

It appeared we adjusted after our horrible early rounds to improve our defensive structures and be harder to play against.

This went out the window yesterday and our defence was Auskick level.

Our lack of execution of the basics is what irritates me and really is inexcusable at this level.

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In all fairness...how's that 'games lost through injury' ladder looking?

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You're contradicting yourself there, BV - big time!

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I think the issue basically gets back to the skill/talent level of our outside users is atrocious.
They are either too inexperienced under pressure or just no good under pressure.

Sitting at 2nd according to channel 7 on 75 just behind Adelaide also on 75.

are Adelaide 1st on %?

How many decades do we have left before we can actually judge the performances like its a professional sporting organisation, without being a fickle glory hunter supporter?...Asking for a friend.

Funny how we have injuries after recruiting all the GWS sicknotes.

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Yeah, that was my frustration as well. The midfield monstering yesterday always meant we were going to lose. But there's been something a little 'broken' about how the defense has played a lot of this year. I came into the year thinking our defense was a relative strength. But clearly something structural has changed. It can't be just injuries.

so two things.

No, judge Carlton now as the club that has been atrocious for much of eighteen years...but do not hold Bolts responsible for all the years he was not there.

So we should not have recruited Marchbank, Pickett & Phillips. I disagree.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Yes agree structural problems in defence and defence method but a backline like yesterday don't give you much run carry or attacking OR DEFENSIVE nous see OShea Rowe Mullet Thomas jones - cf - Docherty Byrne Weitering Marchbank - when backline playing well last year all were making good contribution and Docherty was exceptional
Rowe jones and OShea in particular don't deliver ball well by hand or foot and aren't great decision makers and don't create any run to our advantage

you really cant have more than one of them -we have 3 Brisbane the other team to win one game haven't got 3 of these in their backline - no afl backline can afford to have them in it -let alone when you have three quarters of your midfield on L plates

Also Simmo not surprisingly isn't as effective as previously because of age but also because of dochertys absence so not getting anywhere near the nous or run or even calmness of last year in the back half

OShea for example gave away 4 free kicks in the Melbourne 50 yesterday and was very lucky not to give away a 5th early on when hitting Hogan front on in first quarter - how possibly can you win when one player gives it back like that

Cameron Bruce is in charge of defence? Who was in charge last year?

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Good points, although O'Shea was victim of umpiring interpretation of the week. One that interestingly didn't seem to apply to the Melbourne defenders blocking in the marking contests.

I'd also add that while Daisy has been pretty good, he struggles to actually defend. We were slaughtered by Tom McDonald and their medium forwards.

Does anyone know who was meant to be McDonald? Because if it was Jones, that's another defensive shocker he's chalked up this year.

Marchbank is a good get. Dury is still out on Picket and Phillips. I'm not going to judge Bolts on past mistakes. That'd be stupid.

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Don't know what I was thinking there

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Yes, but not rebuilding

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Yeah, you blockhead.

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Comparing SPS & Fisher's first 20 games disposals and contested possessions, and Dow's games to date, with Gibbs looks pretty good.