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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:20 am 
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Brad Lloyd is so unconvincing in media. Sounds like he has no confidence in Bolts
..and doing a poor job of selling hope on SEN right now. Not a media performer.


Have you seen the next 6 games we've got coming? Actually, make that the next 18 games :eek: .

If we can't beat a bunch of babies, we can't beat anyone.

It's time to go.......

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:48 am 
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Saw this on Twitter. 90 seconds to go and we leave all that space open around the stoppage. Why didn't we lock it down and create endless stoppages?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:01 am 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
Brad Lloyd is so unconvincing in media. Sounds like he has no confidence in Bolts
..and doing a poor job of selling hope on SEN right now. Not a media performer.


I thought he was ok given the circumstances.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:47 am 
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Thought Bolton coached well yesterday. Our on field leadership in last 90 seconds was deplorable.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:52 am 
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The Duke wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
Brad Lloyd is so unconvincing in media. Sounds like he has no confidence in Bolts
..and doing a poor job of selling hope on SEN right now. Not a media performer.


Have you seen the next 6 games we've got coming? Actually, make that the next 18 games :eek: .

If we can't beat a bunch of babies, we can't beat anyone.

It's time to go.......

Admittedly I feel ill looking ahead at our schedule. But I am not a paid emplyee of the club....the head of the footy dept. Radiating doubt surely not in his brief.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:54 am 
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Kingy saying we need organisation even more then effort.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:23 am 
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We have had incredibly bad luck. 3 ruckmen injured at the same time. Dominated by mid level opposition ruckmen.
Lose our no 1 defender for 2 years straight.
half the list on interrupted pre-season.
1-2 injuries per game.

Despite this we should have won at least 2 games.
However what has prevented us as much as the injuries is poor composure, lack of organisation and basic skill errors that people mock in AFLW. Bolton has no comeback from this. He won't be coaching next year. That is clear.
However I hope the club and fans don't turn it into a bloodsport like it was for Ratten.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:31 am 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
We have had incredibly bad luck. 3 ruckmen injured at the same time. Dominated by mid level opposition ruckmen.
Lose our no 1 defender for 2 years straight.
half the list on interrupted pre-season.
1-2 injuries per game.

Despite this we should have won at least 2 games.
However what has prevented us as much as the injuries is poor composure, lack of organisation and basic skill errors that people mock in AFLW. Bolton has no comeback from this. He won't be coaching next year. That is clear.
However I hope the club and fans don't turn it into a bloodsport like it was for Ratten.


I reckon they'll arrange a 'bloodless coup' when it's clear he's done. That's the way most modern clubs do these things.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:09 am 
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Listening to 3AW. Their sports editor says that CFC powerbrokers "and there are plenty of them" have given BB 4 to 8 weeks to show a dramatic improvement in the team or he is gone.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:11 am 
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Nobody associated with the club is satisfied with yesterday’s loss. Equally, nobody is satisfied with only achieving marginal gains over last year. However, to ignore the progress that has been made is to be wilfully blind or totally ignorant. There are plenty of both of these types in the media, kicking the Blues fills plenty of dead airtime.

Like all professional organisations the club constantly reviews performance. Make no mistake, all aspects of the club are held to account. All decisions are questioned and all performances, good and bad, are reviewed to see what can be done better.

Our club’s leaders are successful people. They don’t suffer defeat happily nor without reaction, nor response. Just because it doesn’t play out in the media doesn’t mean things aren’t happening. At this stage Bolton stays. To do otherwise would be reckless. Our club is not reckless.

As required, successful leaders change tack, invest more and as appropriate provide more support. Our leaders are the right people to guide the Blues to success. They are hard and ruthless when needed.

A decision may at some stage be made that a change of coach is required. However, it is equally likely that a decision will be made that stronger, better and more tactical support staff are required. The club is building for sustained success, not to be a long term mid table team.

I understand that a win would be great, however, would anyone have been truly satisfied with a 1 goal win yesterday? At best it may have kept the media at bay for a while but in reality those at the club would still be questioning / reviewing and analysing where the team and its development is at.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:13 am 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Listening to 3AW. Their sports editor says that CFC powerbrokers "and there are plenty of them" have given BB 4 to 8 weeks to show a dramatic improvement in the team or he is gone.


3AW sports editor is full of shit. Media generated pressure, looking for self serving gratification.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:19 am 
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
Nobody associated with the club is satisfied with yesterday’s loss. Equally, nobody is satisfied with only achieving marginal gains over last year. However, to ignore the progress that has been made is to be wilfully blind or totally ignorant. There are plenty of both of these types in the media, kicking the Blues fills plenty of dead airtime.

Like all professional organisations the club constantly reviews performance. Make no mistake, all aspects of the club are held to account. All decisions are questioned and all performances, good and bad, are reviewed to see what can be done better.

Our club’s leaders are successful people. They don’t suffer defeat happily nor without reaction, nor response. Just because it doesn’t play out in the media doesn’t mean things aren’t happening. At this stage Bolton stays. To do otherwise would be reckless. Our club is not reckless.

As required, successful leaders change tack, invest more and as appropriate provide more support. Our leaders are the right people to guide the Blues to success. They are hard and ruthless when needed.

A decision may at some stage be made that a change of coach is required. However, it is equally likely that a decision will be made that stronger, better and more tactical support staff are required. The club is building for sustained success, not to be a long term mid table team.

I understand that a win would be great, however, would anyone have been truly satisfied with a 1 goal win yesterday? At best it may have kept the media at bay for a while but in reality those at the club would still be questioning / reviewing and analysing where the team and its development is at.

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Appreciate your posts as always OR.

One could argue that should of happened in the offseason just gone. Why are we waiting for 'crisis time'?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:24 am 
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Who is the worst coach in the competition. If the answer is Bolton, the next question is why do we have the worst coach in the competition.

Changing support staff will have no effect if the head coach isn't in the top 6-8 coaches in the comp.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:35 am 
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verbs wrote:
Saw this on Twitter. 90 seconds to go and we leave all that space open around the stoppage. Why didn't we lock it down and create endless stoppages?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:39 am 
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
Nobody associated with the club is satisfied with yesterday’s loss. Equally, nobody is satisfied with only achieving marginal gains over last year. However, to ignore the progress that has been made is to be wilfully blind or totally ignorant. There are plenty of both of these types in the media, kicking the Blues fills plenty of dead airtime.

Like all professional organisations the club constantly reviews performance. Make no mistake, all aspects of the club are held to account. All decisions are questioned and all performances, good and bad, are reviewed to see what can be done better.

Our club’s leaders are successful people. They don’t suffer defeat happily nor without reaction, nor response. Just because it doesn’t play out in the media doesn’t mean things aren’t happening. At this stage Bolton stays. To do otherwise would be reckless. Our club is not reckless.

As required, successful leaders change tack, invest more and as appropriate provide more support. Our leaders are the right people to guide the Blues to success. They are hard and ruthless when needed.

A decision may at some stage be made that a change of coach is required. However, it is equally likely that a decision will be made that stronger, better and more tactical support staff are required. The club is building for sustained success, not to be a long term mid table team.

I understand that a win would be great, however, would anyone have been truly satisfied with a 1 goal win yesterday? At best it may have kept the media at bay for a while but in reality those at the club would still be questioning / reviewing and analysing where the team and its development is at.

Cheers

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Changing the support staff with a shit head coach is like shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. 3 wins from 35, 0-4. I'd be changing as soon as possible as to continue doing the same thing is worse. Didn't hurt when we swapped Pagan for Ratten. To keep turning out shit just hurts the culture.

We need to select coaches alot better. We've selected one good one since Parko. Since then it's gone rookie coach who had never played AFL, old dinosaur who was past it, rookie coach who had played and well, old dinosaur who was past it, rookie coach who hasn't played. Look at that and one coach did well. Not hard to guess, then we sacked him for an old dinosaur. Something we have been terrible at.


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Ockham's Razor wrote:
Nobody associated with the club is satisfied with yesterday’s loss. Equally, nobody is satisfied with only achieving marginal gains over last year. However, to ignore the progress that has been made is to be wilfully blind or totally ignorant. There are plenty of both of these types in the media, kicking the Blues fills plenty of dead airtime.

Like all professional organisations the club constantly reviews performance. Make no mistake, all aspects of the club are held to account. All decisions are questioned and all performances, good and bad, are reviewed to see what can be done better.

Our club’s leaders are successful people. They don’t suffer defeat happily nor without reaction, nor response. Just because it doesn’t play out in the media doesn’t mean things aren’t happening. At this stage Bolton stays. To do otherwise would be reckless. Our club is not reckless.

As required, successful leaders change tack, invest more and as appropriate provide more support. Our leaders are the right people to guide the Blues to success. They are hard and ruthless when needed.

A decision may at some stage be made that a change of coach is required. However, it is equally likely that a decision will be made that stronger, better and more tactical support staff are required. The club is building for sustained success, not to be a long term mid table team.

I understand that a win would be great, however, would anyone have been truly satisfied with a 1 goal win yesterday? At best it may have kept the media at bay for a while but in reality those at the club would still be questioning / reviewing and analysing where the team and its development is at.

Cheers

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agree it would not have been a great victory yesterday... but the loss really burned.
I hope we will be offering support to the forward line coach.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:53 am 
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jim wrote:
Didn't hurt when we swapped Pagan for Ratten.



But it did hurt when we swapped Ratten for Malthouse. Arguably, it hurts to this day!

If Bolts goes, the question is simply: Who is available that would do a better job?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:59 am 
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
Nobody associated with the club is satisfied with yesterday’s loss. Equally, nobody is satisfied with only achieving marginal gains over last year. However, to ignore the progress that has been made is to be wilfully blind or totally ignorant. There are plenty of both of these types in the media, kicking the Blues fills plenty of dead airtime.

Like all professional organisations the club constantly reviews performance. Make no mistake, all aspects of the club are held to account. All decisions are questioned and all performances, good and bad, are reviewed to see what can be done better.

Our club’s leaders are successful people. They don’t suffer defeat happily nor without reaction, nor response. Just because it doesn’t play out in the media doesn’t mean things aren’t happening. At this stage Bolton stays. To do otherwise would be reckless. Our club is not reckless.

As required, successful leaders change tack, invest more and as appropriate provide more support. Our leaders are the right people to guide the Blues to success. They are hard and ruthless when needed.

A decision may at some stage be made that a change of coach is required. However, it is equally likely that a decision will be made that stronger, better and more tactical support staff are required. The club is building for sustained success, not to be a long term mid table team.

I understand that a win would be great, however, would anyone have been truly satisfied with a 1 goal win yesterday? At best it may have kept the media at bay for a while but in reality those at the club would still be questioning / reviewing and analysing where the team and its development is at.

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Has anyone called Harford to see if he's available to come in as an assistant ?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:02 pm 
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jim wrote:
Ockham's Razor wrote:
Nobody associated with the club is satisfied with yesterday’s loss. Equally, nobody is satisfied with only achieving marginal gains over last year. However, to ignore the progress that has been made is to be wilfully blind or totally ignorant. There are plenty of both of these types in the media, kicking the Blues fills plenty of dead airtime.

Like all professional organisations the club constantly reviews performance. Make no mistake, all aspects of the club are held to account. All decisions are questioned and all performances, good and bad, are reviewed to see what can be done better.

Our club’s leaders are successful people. They don’t suffer defeat happily nor without reaction, nor response. Just because it doesn’t play out in the media doesn’t mean things aren’t happening. At this stage Bolton stays. To do otherwise would be reckless. Our club is not reckless.

As required, successful leaders change tack, invest more and as appropriate provide more support. Our leaders are the right people to guide the Blues to success. They are hard and ruthless when needed.

A decision may at some stage be made that a change of coach is required. However, it is equally likely that a decision will be made that stronger, better and more tactical support staff are required. The club is building for sustained success, not to be a long term mid table team.

I understand that a win would be great, however, would anyone have been truly satisfied with a 1 goal win yesterday? At best it may have kept the media at bay for a while but in reality those at the club would still be questioning / reviewing and analysing where the team and its development is at.

Cheers

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Changing the support staff with a shit head coach is like shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. 3 wins from 35, 0-4. I'd be changing as soon as possible as to continue doing the same thing is worse. Didn't hurt when we swapped Pagan for Ratten. To keep turning out shit just hurts the culture.

We need to select coaches alot better. We've selected one good one since Parko. Since then it's gone rookie coach who had never played AFL, old dinosaur who was past it, rookie coach who had played and well, old dinosaur who was past it, rookie coach who hasn't played. Look at that and one coach did well. Not hard to guess, then we sacked him for an old dinosaur. Something we have been terrible at.


Changing assistant staff worked for Hardwick, Buckley and now for Richardson.

I think Bolton should stay but someone like Barker has had a long time with not much success.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:15 pm 
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Discussion on SEN earlier - Richardson has Ratten assisting him and Billy Slater working on leadership.
Buckley has Harvey, Hocking, Sanderson, Matthew Boyd amongst others

We have a few C graders I'd suggest:

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/footy/coaching-panel

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