trublu wrote:
Where we are with this list and the lack of quality players I find it astonishing that Bolton would switch to a offensive style of play so early on in our development..... Has he done this to please media scribes who call us boring? because it’s not working and it won’t. I don’t see any benefit what so ever.
The make up of our list isn’t ready for this ‘offensive’ stage of our development. I feel We need at least 2 more drafts before this list resembles anything that can take this club forward.
If Bolts wants us to be more attacking then he needs to Identify the players in our list that will lend themselves to this style of play. If it’s Mckay and Curnow then bloody play McKay and Curnow week I week out no matter the results.
Bolts speaks of synergy and the side improving playing more and more games together but we are two games In And McKay hasn’t played. Cunningham didn’t play round 1 but we persist with Daisy
What I witnessed today and through out the JLT series is amateur hour.
We’ve gone from looking like a well structured side defensively to now a bunch of amateurs running around with NFI and our best player old enough to be my grand dad.
And Im starting to question SOS’s ability to identify good talent. Other than Curnow, none of the players he recruited have me confident they will be great footballers for our club.
Almost half of our list is made up of recycled players.
Almost half of our list are players 190cm +
The need for dash of half back has not been addressed by SOS.
Please SOS no more inbetween height defenders. We have enough. So much so I think one may need to be moved on as there’s to many same same down back.
Hey Trublu. I know you're looking for reasons for yesterdays result, as we all are. I'm spewing on the performance by the individual players who didnt get up and produce with their "GOD GIVEN" tools.
No point looking for scape goats. I disagree with many of your assertians:
We have plenty of quality players. There's a difference between young and undeveloped and quality. They are quality. For eg, is Murphy a quality player? If so, because he has shown he has elite skills, won an MVP, chosen as captain, then why isnt he running hard enough, chasing harrassing ala Cotchin. Why did he mishandle the ball so much yesterday? Why did he have so many clangers? Like all the others who fumbled for 4 quarters it is the individuals who turned up on the day who should be held to account imo.
Bolton made decisions to appease the media scribes? FMD. Do you really think the media are one step ahead of us on the Footy Forums? That's where they get their info: the supporters. Dont worry, Bolts and co heard from them before they read in the media. Do you think they know Carlton and its workings better than those within. Answer is NO. They just dig and dig and dig as much muck for Carlton, you seem to forget they are just parroting what we all think. Its obvious when form is lost, but yesterday wasnt a form issue alone, or a coaching issue imo, it was a cancer that spread throughout the team from the outset, led by a half hearted captain who came and led with the wrong attitude and we capitulated thereafter from perceived pressure and lack of concentration. He lost concentration when he was stopped after the toss to discuss his milestone. FMD never let that happen again!!!! Getting ahead of ourselves before we secured the nut. Umps dont help us. Media dont help us, so we rely on the players to turn up and be turned on every week.
We showed plenty of ability to play offensively in the JLT and against Richmond in round 1 that first 15 minutes till the umps and a few lucky goals and again in the 3rd quarter against really mature bodies. Geez, at times, yesterday, when we didnt fumble we slammed on the goals. We got plenty of forward entries, more than GCS despite the ridiculous fumbling and turnovers. We have shown we are ready to be applying the offensive layer and we will make mistakes with those with decision making as we evolve, but FFS the fumbling is what handed the ball to the opposition on a silver platter. Imagine if we didn't fumble and cut the clangers back by even 20%. Nothing to do with quality of players either. Ive never seen them fumble like yesterday since Bolts took over. We are ready with the personnel we have ammassed to go offensive, but the players have to be switched on. The players on the day.They were the issue yesterday.
I dont want Daisy in the team,, nor Mullett, nor OShea, nor Lamb, noe Simmo, nor Wright, but I can see why he's in and some of them too. We need leadership, and despite his body not being able to do what his mind wants he attacked the ball and the man with gusto, and was one grab apart from a dropped chess mark...which I don't accept and forms part of my argument. It was fumbles that cost us all day. I am expecting Daisy to be buying time till he is passed in the 2nd half of 2018. He's not the problem for yesterday's fumbling.
SOS has put together a great list in little time. You have to consider what he has achieved after turning over 40 players on a list in 3 drafts. Never been done before. Its a clean out. We dont have more picks than anyone else, and as for the recycled players, have a look at what they cost. Cheap. Bonus. Perhaps great for helping support in the VFL plus depth. Kids of lesser quality from the draft couldnt give us depth we need. I dont think those choices are the problem. It was their fumbling (Mullett in particular), Lamb's miss in front when we had momentum. They didnt cost us quality players.
SOS couldve selected Fogarty instead of LOB, but he went for speed and run. Fisher has speed. Garlett has speed. Pickett has speed. Willo has speed. Lang has speed. Dow has speed and Cuningham has speed. They are all new recruits to our list. There it is. We need to add more speed, that's all.
The problem was in between the ears of the players imo. The stuff they can control, not the coach, is what they didnt do. Not the recruiter. Not the supporters. They fumbled and got ahead of themselves and the Captain has to take the fall given his lack of polish and effort on the day. He picks and chooses, and that is unacceptable because a captain leads by example. Cheap stats dont cut it for me. He knows this is his last year as captai, got his 100 games up as captain and checked out. I do expect him to lift and he will....but only when he chooses to. Remember his body after 2 full preseasons is in a good place.
Couldnt be bothered reading above..sorry about spelling grammar in advance.
I still believe in this list, not necassrily in the depth, yet, but like cheating, there's certain things players need to bring to every game. Basic 101 effort and skills they already had when they were recruited.