Most of our kids dont have the capacity to run as much as we would like.

Give them a couple more preseasons

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I think sometimes it's right to kick sideways or backwards to man in space but that receiver has to be good player with vision and skill to quickly pick out someone forward before the opposition flood back into space. Anymore than one kick sideways/backwards is just a wasting time tactic.

...and what you are effectively saying its players mistakes not the game plan.

Have another read of dannyboys post above (top of page). IF the senior players didnt butcher the ball, yes, butcher, we may have won that one.

At the end of the game, all I heard from Swans supporters was that Carlton lost the game as opposed to Swans win the game.

At half time, I had a bunch of Swans supporters wanting to bet me that Carlton would win. I refused because the fact its a Home Game for the Swans, they effectively play with an extra few players (umpires).

Whilst some of the umpiring decisions for Buddy and others were crowd pleasers, despite being wrong decisions, they were not the reason we lost.

The game plan is obvious.
We have 13 injured players out, including our AA and VC in Docherty.
We are playing kids.

All legit reasons we are not at the top of our game.

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Yes players make mistakes and it's infuriating but if they haven't got a direct avenue to release and have to go back and sideways then the mistakes are multiplied.
The less ball handling the less mistakes, we over posses.

I do agree with some posters that our kids don't back themselves enough (or aren't being back by the seniors/coaches enough). Some examples on Friday: Fisher chipping the ball from ~35m out to outside the 50m arc - turnover, goal to Sydney. Earlier, a youngster (I forget who) had the goal about 40m out with (I think) space to take a shot, but a stationary Ed Curnow had his hands in the air about 45m out. Handball made, Ed gets crunched in the tackle. There was also Darcy Lang charging into the 50m arc and then seeming to second-guess himself and chip a nothing kick into the pocket. This seems to have been an issue for some time now (think back to that game where SOJ marked the ball 5m out directly in front, with a first ever Carlton goal beckoning. Then kicks it to Gibbs 25m out on a 45 degree angle, who proceeds to miss). Where does this lack of self-belief come from? Is the "damage limitation" gameplan teaching the kids they can't be relied on to make things happen? Just idle speculation here...

could be

and could be leadership.

Leaders must instruct the kids to take the risk - a coach can tell them after the event or before the event - but a leader on the ground demands it during the event.

Perhaps Bolts and the coaches need to address this aspect of our on the ground leadership - that the leaders must convince the kids to take the risks?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

We are not the only team that does this. You even watch Dusty there is many a time he gives off when he could have a shot.
The difference I see with Carlton is that our shots on goal are few and far between so when a player gets in cooee of the goal we all want them to take the shot.
I don't mind it but sometimes I just want the players to be a bit selfish and take the shot

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A voice of reason for a change, how refreshing!

Fixture hasn't been kind to us.

We've played and lost against the entire current top 8 and only played 3 games against the bottom 8 teams for our only win.

We should add this to the youth and injuries excuses.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

...Adelaide just dropped out of the 8

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Sack the coach!

Gee who would of thought injuries make a side weaker

excuses....

I love this...excuses are the excuse of those unable to consider a different opinion.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Now now Trigger you carry on like you expected Carlton to be 1 and 10 at this stage of the season.
Any supporter that says or posts that they expected us to have only won one game is a flat out liar.
This season so far has been very disappointing.
I can't recall one poster stating we would be this bad.
No one from the coaches administration or media predicted a drop off like this.



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After failing to win the GF last year and allowing Richmond to win - he should be!!

No i did not expect to be 1-10, i expected us to win 5-6 by the end of the year no more, but i also did not expect our injury toll to be as big either, so i am being realistic not living in fantasy land with what we have stepping out on the field.
We do not have the depth as yet, as long as we keep getting games into the younger players i am fine with that!
this will take a few more years yet , this was never going to be a 3 year rebuild as others have suggested, 5-7 years from our low base is what i expected and that is how we are tracking by the look of it.
So i do not go on rants, re game plans, sack the coaches ect ect___
By the way a few in the media did predict we will struggle this year and tipped us to finish with the spoon.
Gws, Goldcoast started from a better base than us ( that definitley says something with regards to our own incompetence in the past, which we all know about) and how are they travelling?

Bolton will be fine, year 5 is when i expect us to start seeing us contending for the finals, it may happen earlier but that is what i reasonabley
expect.

It takes allot of years to rebuid a young, inexperienced list when you are hamstrung by the Draconion AFL rules.

Most tipped us for the wooden spoon this year, which is exactly what is likely. Am i disappointed, yes, am i surprised given where our list is at and the injuries we have had, no.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-05/what-afl-teams-are-learning-from-the-nba-kicking-accuracy/9831994?pfmredir=sm&section=sport


Just as we discuss someone writes about it

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Most tipped North to be with us and the druggies top 4 and West Coast as big sliders.
Look at how the Roos and Eagles play compared to us, even the pies who last year didn't know what they stood for with the same playing group. Bad skills can't kick a goal blah blah. Amazing what ball movement does to a average team.

Just because the football world underestimated north and overestimated bombers doesn't meed they misjudged Carlton. You're comparing the roos and eagles playing style to ours, but the state of our list is very different to theirs. Have a look at Norths midfield compared to ours, way more experienced. Eagles have arguably the best forward and defender in the league in Kennedy and McGovern and Gaff and Darling are having breakout years. Have a look at the experience and age demographic of our list, we are in our rightful position at the bottom of the ladder. But I am confident the tide will turn in a year or two, it'll just take time given the turnover of the list.