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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:31 pm 
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apart from bolton who is doing a good job, i think the other coaches should be looked at. We need some1 just out of the game to add to coaching panel.



Calling Luke Hodge....

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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I want the best forward line coach in the game. Who is that?


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:29 pm 
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I want the best forward line coach in the game. Who is that?


Based on the best offensive team Adelaide, it would be one of our former players and Northern Bullants coach, David Teague.

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 Post subject: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:38 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
GWS wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
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I'm happy for Bolton to keep 'experimenting' like he did in the first half on Saturday. Loved seeing Jack as a defender.


I'm not really sure we really need anymore HBF's.....I'd much rather he was in the fwd line


They wanted to play Harry.

It was either backline or possibly VFL for Jack.


Or go with the revolutionary idea of having more than one player in the forward line.


Jack plays as a tall. Couldn't have him there as well.


Since we were being experimental couldn't he try playing as a small?

Or have Harry play as a small?


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 Post subject: Coach Brendon Bolton
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Wangers wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I want the best forward line coach in the game. Who is that?


Based on the best offensive team Adelaide, it would be one of our former players and Northern Bullants coach, David Teague.


Don't worry about a coach just need smarter mids with better skills and decision making


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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jamespul65 wrote:
apart from bolton who is doing a good job, i think the other coaches should be looked at. We need some1 just out of the game to add to coaching panel.



Calling Luke Hodge....

You would think someone will pick him up if he wants to coach. Might as well be us.

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:25 am 
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Rexy wrote:
Wangers wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I want the best forward line coach in the game. Who is that?


Based on the best offensive team Adelaide, it would be one of our former players and Northern Bullants coach, David Teague.


Don't worry about a coach just need smarter mids with better skills and decision making


It has nothing to do with the forward coach. No coach in the AFL will give you a winning forward line when you are consistently running 4 or 5 forwards against 6 or 7 defenders. Add to that 3 first or second year players out of your forward group of 5 and it's a no win situation.
That's why Casboults role is undervalued by most supporters. His job is to be a big body that get's the ball dumped on his head and not to be outmarked. Not to mention then having Charlie jumping all over him as well.
The remaining forwards are really non contributors as forwards. Their role is to provide pressure and assist in locking the ball in and pressure the exiting ball until our excess numbers can build a defensive structure and regain possession.

This structure has a number of positives. It prevents the slingshot footy that will zap our limited midfield group. It puts Casboults strengths on show to enhance his value and it puts protection around our young defenders.
Next year with increased body size and endurance in our youngsters, more players growing the depth of the midfield group and the players continually improving their decision making, we will see a change is game style and structure.

We have to keep the faith. I posted the following 5 weeks ago when we were the darlings of the media.

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This week we are the talk of the town and our players are looking the goods. After one bad loss, we will be lacking depth and have a game style that is easy to counter. :lol: Remember, 10 games ago, we weren't going to win a game this year.
As Bolton says, never get too high and never get too low. The media will do that for us.

Also to be fair, we are probably better off than any other club for injuries. We've been very fortunate to date. We'll get our turn and when we do, it will be interesting to see how we fare. And to see how we're represented in the media.


We have an AFL standard midfield group of maybe 5 at the moment. (And thats being generous) Cripps, Gibbs, Murphy, Docherty and Curnow, with up and comers. On Sunday, 2 of the 5 were injured and one other was totally tagged out of the game. Keep the faith. One or 2 additional players next year will make an enormous difference.

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:55 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Wangers wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I want the best forward line coach in the game. Who is that?


Based on the best offensive team Adelaide, it would be one of our former players and Northern Bullants coach, David Teague.


Don't worry about a coach just need smarter mids with better skills and decision making


It has nothing to do with the forward coach. No coach in the AFL will give you a winning forward line when you are consistently running 4 or 5 forwards against 6 or 7 defenders. Add to that 3 first or second year players out of your forward group of 5 and it's a no win situation.
That's why Casboults role is undervalued by most supporters. His job is to be a big body that get's the ball dumped on his head and not to be outmarked. Not to mention then having Charlie jumping all over him as well.
The remaining forwards are really non contributors as forwards. Their role is to provide pressure and assist in locking the ball in and pressure the exiting ball until our excess numbers can build a defensive structure and regain possession.

This structure has a number of positives. It prevents the slingshot footy that will zap our limited midfield group. It puts Casboults strengths on show to enhance his value and it puts protection around our young defenders.
Next year with increased body size and endurance in our youngsters, more players growing the depth of the midfield group and the players continually improving their decision making, we will see a change is game style and structure.

We have to keep the faith. I posted the following 5 weeks ago when we were the darlings of the media.

Quote:
This week we are the talk of the town and our players are looking the goods. After one bad loss, we will be lacking depth and have a game style that is easy to counter. :lol: Remember, 10 games ago, we weren't going to win a game this year.
As Bolton says, never get too high and never get too low. The media will do that for us.

Also to be fair, we are probably better off than any other club for injuries. We've been very fortunate to date. We'll get our turn and when we do, it will be interesting to see how we fare. And to see how we're represented in the media.


We have an AFL standard midfield group of maybe 5 at the moment. (And thats being generous) Cripps, Gibbs, Murphy, Docherty and Curnow, with up and comers. On Sunday, 2 of the 5 were injured and one other was totally tagged out of the game. Keep the faith. One or 2 additional players next year will make an enormous difference.


Yep well said!


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:21 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Wangers wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I want the best forward line coach in the game. Who is that?


Based on the best offensive team Adelaide, it would be one of our former players and Northern Bullants coach, David Teague.


Don't worry about a coach just need smarter mids with better skills and decision making


It has nothing to do with the forward coach. No coach in the AFL will give you a winning forward line when you are consistently running 4 or 5 forwards against 6 or 7 defenders. Add to that 3 first or second year players out of your forward group of 5 and it's a no win situation.
That's why Casboults role is undervalued by most supporters. His job is to be a big body that get's the ball dumped on his head and not to be outmarked. Not to mention then having Charlie jumping all over him as well.
The remaining forwards are really non contributors as forwards. Their role is to provide pressure and assist in locking the ball in and pressure the exiting ball until our excess numbers can build a defensive structure and regain possession.

This structure has a number of positives. It prevents the slingshot footy that will zap our limited midfield group. It puts Casboults strengths on show to enhance his value and it puts protection around our young defenders.
Next year with increased body size and endurance in our youngsters, more players growing the depth of the midfield group and the players continually improving their decision making, we will see a change is game style and structure.

We have to keep the faith. I posted the following 5 weeks ago when we were the darlings of the media.

Quote:
This week we are the talk of the town and our players are looking the goods. After one bad loss, we will be lacking depth and have a game style that is easy to counter. :lol: Remember, 10 games ago, we weren't going to win a game this year.
As Bolton says, never get too high and never get too low. The media will do that for us.

Also to be fair, we are probably better off than any other club for injuries. We've been very fortunate to date. We'll get our turn and when we do, it will be interesting to see how we fare. And to see how we're represented in the media.


We have an AFL standard midfield group of maybe 5 at the moment. (And thats being generous) Cripps, Gibbs, Murphy, Docherty and Curnow, with up and comers. On Sunday, 2 of the 5 were injured and one other was totally tagged out of the game. Keep the faith. One or 2 additional players next year will make an enormous difference.


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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I may have mentioned this before BV.

Football forums are no place for measured and intelligent reflection.

Get with the program.

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:09 am 
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GWS wrote:
I may have mentioned this before BV.

Football forums are no place for measured and intelligent reflection.

Get with the program.


Football forums are no place for people who can football.

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 Post subject: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:17 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Wangers wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I want the best forward line coach in the game. Who is that?


Based on the best offensive team Adelaide, it would be one of our former players and Northern Bullants coach, David Teague.


Don't worry about a coach just need smarter mids with better skills and decision making


It has nothing to do with the forward coach. No coach in the AFL will give you a winning forward line when you are consistently running 4 or 5 forwards against 6 or 7 defenders. Add to that 3 first or second year players out of your forward group of 5 and it's a no win situation.
That's why Casboults role is undervalued by most supporters. His job is to be a big body that get's the ball dumped on his head and not to be outmarked. Not to mention then having Charlie jumping all over him as well.
The remaining forwards are really non contributors as forwards. Their role is to provide pressure and assist in locking the ball in and pressure the exiting ball until our excess numbers can build a defensive structure and regain possession.

This structure has a number of positives. It prevents the slingshot footy that will zap our limited midfield group. It puts Casboults strengths on show to enhance his value and it puts protection around our young defenders.
Next year with increased body size and endurance in our youngsters, more players growing the depth of the midfield group and the players continually improving their decision making, we will see a change is game style and structure.

We have to keep the faith. I posted the following 5 weeks ago when we were the darlings of the media.

Quote:
This week we are the talk of the town and our players are looking the goods. After one bad loss, we will be lacking depth and have a game style that is easy to counter. :lol: Remember, 10 games ago, we weren't going to win a game this year.
As Bolton says, never get too high and never get too low. The media will do that for us.

Also to be fair, we are probably better off than any other club for injuries. We've been very fortunate to date. We'll get our turn and when we do, it will be interesting to see how we fare. And to see how we're represented in the media.


We have an AFL standard midfield group of maybe 5 at the moment. (And thats being generous) Cripps, Gibbs, Murphy, Docherty and Curnow, with up and comers. On Sunday, 2 of the 5 were injured and one other was totally tagged out of the game. Keep the faith. One or 2 additional players next year will make an enormous difference.


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Wangers wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I want the best forward line coach in the game. Who is that?


Based on the best offensive team Adelaide, it would be one of our former players and Northern Bullants coach, David Teague.


Don't worry about a coach just need smarter mids with better skills and decision making


It has nothing to do with the forward coach. No coach in the AFL will give you a winning forward line when you are consistently running 4 or 5 forwards against 6 or 7 defenders. Add to that 3 first or second year players out of your forward group of 5 and it's a no win situation.
That's why Casboults role is undervalued by most supporters. His job is to be a big body that get's the ball dumped on his head and not to be outmarked. Not to mention then having Charlie jumping all over him as well.
The remaining forwards are really non contributors as forwards. Their role is to provide pressure and assist in locking the ball in and pressure the exiting ball until our excess numbers can build a defensive structure and regain possession.

This structure has a number of positives. It prevents the slingshot footy that will zap our limited midfield group. It puts Casboults strengths on show to enhance his value and it puts protection around our young defenders.
Next year with increased body size and endurance in our youngsters, more players growing the depth of the midfield group and the players continually improving their decision making, we will see a change is game style and structure.

We have to keep the faith. I posted the following 5 weeks ago when we were the darlings of the media.

Quote:
This week we are the talk of the town and our players are looking the goods. After one bad loss, we will be lacking depth and have a game style that is easy to counter. :lol: Remember, 10 games ago, we weren't going to win a game this year.
As Bolton says, never get too high and never get too low. The media will do that for us.

Also to be fair, we are probably better off than any other club for injuries. We've been very fortunate to date. We'll get our turn and when we do, it will be interesting to see how we fare. And to see how we're represented in the media.


We have an AFL standard midfield group of maybe 5 at the moment. (And thats being generous) Cripps, Gibbs, Murphy, Docherty and Curnow, with up and comers. On Sunday, 2 of the 5 were injured and one other was totally tagged out of the game. Keep the faith. One or 2 additional players next year will make an enormous difference.


:clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:52 pm 
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choo wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Wangers wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I want the best forward line coach in the game. Who is that?


Based on the best offensive team Adelaide, it would be one of our former players and Northern Bullants coach, David Teague.


Don't worry about a coach just need smarter mids with better skills and decision making


It has nothing to do with the forward coach. No coach in the AFL will give you a winning forward line when you are consistently running 4 or 5 forwards against 6 or 7 defenders. Add to that 3 first or second year players out of your forward group of 5 and it's a no win situation.
That's why Casboults role is undervalued by most supporters. His job is to be a big body that get's the ball dumped on his head and not to be outmarked. Not to mention then having Charlie jumping all over him as well.
The remaining forwards are really non contributors as forwards. Their role is to provide pressure and assist in locking the ball in and pressure the exiting ball until our excess numbers can build a defensive structure and regain possession.

This structure has a number of positives. It prevents the slingshot footy that will zap our limited midfield group. It puts Casboults strengths on show to enhance his value and it puts protection around our young defenders.
Next year with increased body size and endurance in our youngsters, more players growing the depth of the midfield group and the players continually improving their decision making, we will see a change is game style and structure.

We have to keep the faith. I posted the following 5 weeks ago when we were the darlings of the media.

Quote:
This week we are the talk of the town and our players are looking the goods. After one bad loss, we will be lacking depth and have a game style that is easy to counter. :lol: Remember, 10 games ago, we weren't going to win a game this year.
As Bolton says, never get too high and never get too low. The media will do that for us.

Also to be fair, we are probably better off than any other club for injuries. We've been very fortunate to date. We'll get our turn and when we do, it will be interesting to see how we fare. And to see how we're represented in the media.


We have an AFL standard midfield group of maybe 5 at the moment. (And thats being generous) Cripps, Gibbs, Murphy, Docherty and Curnow, with up and comers. On Sunday, 2 of the 5 were injured and one other was totally tagged out of the game. Keep the faith. One or 2 additional players next year will make an enormous difference.


Every time you post, an idiot over- reacting, under-informed, impatient supporter is quiet. (hopefully)
Love your work

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:22 pm 
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Oh I get it....Our forward lines has great leading patterns and is never stagnant, Casboult is never outbodied....our small forwards keep locking the ball in.....Yes our forward coaching doesn't need improvement.....it is 100% a midfield problem.


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GWS wrote:
I may have mentioned this before BV.

Football forums are no place for measured and intelligent reflection.

Get with the program.
:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:17 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Wangers wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I want the best forward line coach in the game. Who is that?


Based on the best offensive team Adelaide, it would be one of our former players and Northern Bullants coach, David Teague.


Don't worry about a coach just need smarter mids with better skills and decision making


It has nothing to do with the forward coach. No coach in the AFL will give you a winning forward line when you are consistently running 4 or 5 forwards against 6 or 7 defenders. Add to that 3 first or second year players out of your forward group of 5 and it's a no win situation.
That's why Casboults role is undervalued by most supporters. His job is to be a big body that get's the ball dumped on his head and not to be outmarked. Not to mention then having Charlie jumping all over him as well.
The remaining forwards are really non contributors as forwards. Their role is to provide pressure and assist in locking the ball in and pressure the exiting ball until our excess numbers can build a defensive structure and regain possession.

This structure has a number of positives. It prevents the slingshot footy that will zap our limited midfield group. It puts Casboults strengths on show to enhance his value and it puts protection around our young defenders.
Next year with increased body size and endurance in our youngsters, more players growing the depth of the midfield group and the players continually improving their decision making, we will see a change is game style and structure.

We have to keep the faith. I posted the following 5 weeks ago when we were the darlings of the media.

Quote:
This week we are the talk of the town and our players are looking the goods. After one bad loss, we will be lacking depth and have a game style that is easy to counter. :lol: Remember, 10 games ago, we weren't going to win a game this year.
As Bolton says, never get too high and never get too low. The media will do that for us.

Also to be fair, we are probably better off than any other club for injuries. We've been very fortunate to date. We'll get our turn and when we do, it will be interesting to see how we fare. And to see how we're represented in the media.


We have an AFL standard midfield group of maybe 5 at the moment. (And thats being generous) Cripps, Gibbs, Murphy, Docherty and Curnow, with up and comers. On Sunday, 2 of the 5 were injured and one other was totally tagged out of the game. Keep the faith. One or 2 additional players next year will make an enormous difference.


Good post BV.

Re Levi, if anything I think many overvalue his role. As you say, it's necessary for now but hopefully this role won't be a focal point going forward.


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:39 pm 
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Michael Jezz wrote:
Oh I get it....Our forward lines has great leading patterns and is never stagnant, Casboult is never outbodied....our small forwards keep locking the ball in.....Yes our forward coaching doesn't need improvement.....it is 100% a midfield problem.


:lol:
I'll play your game. The problem isn't the forward coach, it's personnel. We don't have adequate forwards, we don't have sufficient midfielders. So our structures are built around protecting our deficiencies and maximising our strengths. At the same time we're getting game time into players who aren't really AFL ready by giving them simple roles based on pressure and effort and putting protective mechanisms in place to defend against their deficiencies.
So no, as usual, you don't get it.

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:41 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Re Levi, if anything I think many overvalue his role. As you say, it's necessary for now but hopefully this role won't be a focal point going forward.


I have no doubt we're showcasing his strengths to build his market value. Plus it currently suits our interests structurally. Unless he gets an injury or has a significant lapse in form, I'd be surprised if he's at Carlton next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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Blue Vain wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Wangers wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
I want the best forward line coach in the game. Who is that?


Based on the best offensive team Adelaide, it would be one of our former players and Northern Bullants coach, David Teague.


Don't worry about a coach just need smarter mids with better skills and decision making


It has nothing to do with the forward coach. No coach in the AFL will give you a winning forward line when you are consistently running 4 or 5 forwards against 6 or 7 defenders. Add to that 3 first or second year players out of your forward group of 5 and it's a no win situation.
That's why Casboults role is undervalued by most supporters. His job is to be a big body that get's the ball dumped on his head and not to be outmarked. Not to mention then having Charlie jumping all over him as well.
The remaining forwards are really non contributors as forwards. Their role is to provide pressure and assist in locking the ball in and pressure the exiting ball until our excess numbers can build a defensive structure and regain possession.

This structure has a number of positives. It prevents the slingshot footy that will zap our limited midfield group. It puts Casboults strengths on show to enhance his value and it puts protection around our young defenders.
Next year with increased body size and endurance in our youngsters, more players growing the depth of the midfield group and the players continually improving their decision making, we will see a change is game style and structure.

We have to keep the faith. I posted the following 5 weeks ago when we were the darlings of the media.

Quote:
This week we are the talk of the town and our players are looking the goods. After one bad loss, we will be lacking depth and have a game style that is easy to counter. :lol: Remember, 10 games ago, we weren't going to win a game this year.
As Bolton says, never get too high and never get too low. The media will do that for us.

Also to be fair, we are probably better off than any other club for injuries. We've been very fortunate to date. We'll get our turn and when we do, it will be interesting to see how we fare. And to see how we're represented in the media.


We have an AFL standard midfield group of maybe 5 at the moment. (And thats being generous) Cripps, Gibbs, Murphy, Docherty and Curnow, with up and comers. On Sunday, 2 of the 5 were injured and one other was totally tagged out of the game. Keep the faith. One or 2 additional players next year will make an enormous difference.


Quoting yourself to support your own point. That's next level. :clap:

Good calls all round though. Especially the last para. We are on the right path and the coaches are doing a good job.


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