Sydney Blue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
OK, now that we've agreed that your comments about Richmond and the Bulldogs are wrong, I'll follow you down the next tangent.
Who taught the Bulldogs or Tigers how to win? Beverage was a rookie coach, what group of premiership players did he have at his disposal teaching his players how to win?
How many premiership players did Richmond have?
You carry on like Bolton had a choice. Do you believe he had the chance to be successful or play finals footy but instead he chose to head to the bottom?
He took on a wooden spoon team. A team with 4 wins that lost 6 of its last 7 games by an average margin of 70 points. Those teams included luminaries like Jason Tutt, Matthew Dick, Andrejs Everitt, Matthew Watson. Mark Whiley, Cameron Wood, Clem Smith, Brad Walsh etc etc etc.
What would be your course of action? Dont just be critical. We all know you can do that. Instead of turning over the list and rebuilding, what would be your solution?
Ratten took arguably a worst group and had them playing finals in 2 years
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Didn't build any foundations. Peaked as an Elimination Final side. Who wants to come 8th?
As for a worse group?
Players that had played 70+ games from 2009.
Judd
Stevens
Fevola
Houlihan
Scotland
Thornton
Wiggins
Simpson
Carrazzo
Betts
Murphy
Walker
vs
Simpson
Thomas
Wright
Curnow
Jones
Casboult
Mullet
OShea
Rowe
Club is paying the price for abysmal drafting and trading for the years up to 2015. Lenny Hayes once said you don't really feel like you've fully established yourself as an AFL footballer until the 70 game mark.
Our core side should have been built on players that were taken in the 2008-2014 off seasons.
These are the guys who win you games. Forget all the "we had an older team than 'x' nonsense that gets trotted out when we lose. These numbers are skewed but the fact that our senior core is always inferior to the oppositions.
Until the 2015-2017 draft crop get more games under their belt, we get some players back from injury, and the club starts using trade week for the now rather than the future than all this speculation on the coach is all hot air...