You had me at hello.
But you lost me when you said you'd accept second rounders for Yarran and Henderson.
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| Author: | keogh [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:12 am ] |
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First of all to all and sundry I was right and you guys who thought we were on the right path were wrong.MM [REDACTED] this club up the arse and his legacy will live on at this club for a few more years with Jones, Thomas still on big money contracts. When a guy is handed a senior coaching job when it was clear the previous club thought he was passed it through their actions flowers off around Australia to promote his book about how great he was leaves a shallow list that he thinks is knocking on the door of a flag your in big trouble The people involved in this appointment should leave. Of course it's hard to sack a Pratt. Essentially the board is the ultimate problem. The recruiting last year was a disgrace Tutt Jones Thomas Dick Boekhurst Jaksch Whiley Fields Wood Matured aged hacks who are contracted next year and beyond. On top of this getting rid of Laidler Betts McLean Gartlett @#$%&! me So enough of the past what about the future Coach Not Barker. We need to appoint a guy from the outside. At least a thorough interview process Is taking place at last Recruiting Must pick kids over the next 5 years . More hits and misses. We must start from the ground up Trades Trade Yarran and Henderson for no less than a second rounder. That would mean 4 picks in roughly the first 25 Dump Guys that clearly are not up to it whose contract is up Fitness This will depend on the new coach but clearly we have failed in this area as well. Even our senior players lack strength and size Have a stand alone reserves team A no brainer I have strong faith that sos will do a good job and the guys on the coaching interview panel will get the right man that's a start. The only good thing this year has been Cripps.Graham as well but if want to keep these 2 guys we must give them some incentive to stay. Give them hope that there is future for them here. I can only hope the board goes as well. We must get it right in all these areas. So endeth the lesson |
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| Author: | Heavs [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
Monday morning. Must be time for keogh. |
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| Author: | dane [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | The Future |
SAKC BB and KJ immediately. Otherwise the rest is good. |
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| Author: | bluegirl72 [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:57 am ] |
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I liked it. |
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| Author: | famousblueraincoat [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
Give me back the Berlin wall Give me Stalin and St Paul Give me Christ or give me Hiroshima Destroy another fetus now We don't like children anyhow I've seen the future, baby: it is murder Sincerely L Cohen |
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| Author: | AGRO [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
You had me at hello. But you lost me when you said you'd accept second rounders for Yarran and Henderson.
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| Author: | ThePsychologist [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
Like your work Keogh. 
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| Author: | Dominator_7 [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
A lot of good points, but think you re going too early with the dismissal of BB, Whiley, Jacksh and Fields. I know the early signs don't look good, but give them a chance to see what they can do under a competent coach (JB being only a caretaker whose hands are tied in many ways). Also, Wood has done what he was brought to the Club to do. Remember, he is our 3rd choice ruckman. |
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| Author: | keogh [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
He ndo for second rounder Yazz for second rounder I'm happy with that The players mentioned that I reckon are shit will be there in 2016 so we keep them anyway Trust me list cloggers We kept Watson because he kicked 4 goals in a meaningless game last year We need to raise the bar at every level |
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| Author: | keogh [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
Except Fields |
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| Author: | jim [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
Surely Jaksch deserves more time, like all big blokes. He'll be ok. Given that was pick 7, if he turns out well, then anything we get of out Whiley and Boekhorst are essentially a bonus as it all essentially came in the same pick. |
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| Author: | famousblueraincoat [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
We would be getting bent over very badly if we take second rounders for Yarran and Hendo. These players are easily worth the same value as some unknown kid in the teens of the draft. A pick around the 10 mark for either of them please. if we take second rounders for those two, we are stuffed. |
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| Author: | ThePsychologist [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
keogh wrote: The players mentioned that I reckon are shit will be there in 2016 so we keep them anyway Trust me list cloggers We kept Watson because he kicked 4 goals in a meaningless game last year We need to raise the bar at every level I agree about raising the bar. We need to. I still have some hope for Boekhurst, Jaksch & Whiley. The rest can go. If Henderson & Yarran get traded, Carrazzo & Judd retire I reckon we cna get rid of about another 3-4 players. Draft isn't that deep and I believe SOS will want to turn over 8-10 players a year for the next 3 seasons to build the list he wants. It will be an important trade period for us. |
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| Author: | frank dardew [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
yes raise the bar and don't trade off hendo and yarran unless we get first rounders - first raise of the bar |
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| Author: | Big Kahuna Boot [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:12 pm ] |
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..first round picks for Henderson and Yarran, if they go.. ....a new coach could very well harness their talent to a greater degree, both are good players, in the right age and experience bracket.. ..second round picks is a big loss for us.. |
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| Author: | Crippa [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
Big Kahuna Boot wrote: ..first round picks for Henderson and Yarran, if they go.. ....a new coach could very well harness their talent to a greater degree, both are good players, in the right age and experience bracket.. ..second round picks is a big loss for us.. Your expectations are too high. You can't expect trading people who have already checked out mentally and performed below par by their own standards for the year to be a win. Trading people like that is always a loss so it's a matter of is it a small loss or a big loss. Second rounders are a small loss. Losing them for zero (like Betts, Waite, Garlett, etc) is a big loss. Accept the small loss and don't hold out for a win......because that will result in a big loss. |
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| Author: | famousblueraincoat [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:29 pm ] |
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If the club let Yarran and Henderson go for second rounders. They might as well rip the monogram off the jumper and replace it with a turd. It would be two more player decisions for the list of recent shockers. it wont happen anyway. |
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| Author: | bmaurizio [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
A player being dissatisfied over one thing or another is quite normal , it can occur in any club, especially when one is down and out , standing going no where . We'll get fair value for both Hendo & Yarran , especially so if we in a strong i favorable trading position , 1st pick in the PSD. |
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| Author: | barass [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
Best thing the club did for the future was part ways with Sir Lunchalot. |
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| Author: | bax [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Future |
keogh wrote: He ndo for second rounder Yazz for second rounder I'm happy with that The players mentioned that I reckon are shit will be there in 2016 so we keep them anyway Trust me list cloggers We kept Watson because he kicked 4 goals in a meaningless game last year We need to raise the bar at every level How do you raise the bar by getting unders for Hendo and Yarran, it's this sort of shit trading/ recruiting that's got us where we are today FFS!!! |
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