Awesome post tbb.
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Fri May 08, 2015 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What would it take to renew your membership? |
Something for people who have walked away and not renewed memberships. What would it take for you to be encouraged enough by what the club is doing to renew your membership, or prevent you from letting it lapse next season? Serious answers only please. One thing on my list would the club is diligent enough to be monitoring social media and forums like this for genuine concerns so hopefully some of this feedback reaches the club. For me, I want to see the club genuinely cares about its supporters and what they think, the changes they'd like to see. That doesn't mean making half arsed attempts to incorporate feedback into their changes. Better interaction with supporters and making fans feel welcome at training. It's obvious we're going to have a lack of young supporters in the future. We need to encourage them as much as we can now. The stories about how hard it is renew your membership. It's hard to imagine we don't look at what other clubs are doing here (we copy everything else Collingwood do) so why are we so bad at this? Appointing the right people. Proper process to appoint people. I'm still concerned with SOS's appointment. Loved the guy as a player, my favourite of all time, but how much did we look around? The approach to Graeme Wright was a disaster and that was our current President. Doesn't give you much faith. No more jobs for the boys and a coach bringing in people he's comfortable working with. I want the best coach we can secure and the best bunch of assistants possible. The best fitness people we can get, the best CFO, dieticians...so on. Changes to the board and more detail on what they're doing. No more passengers. I wouldn't have a clue what Marcus Clarke does for our club. If he's doing some great work, then we should hear about it. If the club was flying you wouldn't need to know some of this stuff, but when supporters are dropping off and have little faith in the club, you need something that restores the faith. I'd love to see the club be innovative again. Instead of copying Collingwood for everything we do, let's be the first to do things. Fan engagement at the top of the list. The hovercraft and Captain Carlton are good, but fans have been complaining its too loud and there is too much going in breaks in play so we need to get a balance. Collingwood did well out of gaming revenue so we've copied them. How about we come up with the next great idea to generate revenue? A way of engaging with fans across the world. I know we're limited in what we can do with merchandising, but how about we team up with a global company and promote ourselves across the world? I know that deep down I still care about my club, and I feel bad that I've dropped off but when you see your club stab itself in the foot time after time, and there is disappointment after disappointment its hard not too. I imagine most people who have dropped off feel the same. It's some form of protest to a club that doesn't listen to fans. The resources and supporters are still there. Can this club tap into that and encourage people to come back? |
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| Author: | cimm1979 [ Fri May 08, 2015 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
I'm not sure, but I'll know it when I see it. |
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| Author: | bluegirl72 [ Fri May 08, 2015 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What would it take to renew your membership? |
Awesome post tbb.
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| Author: | Taff [ Fri May 08, 2015 12:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
Appointing the right people. Proper process to appoint people. I'm still concerned with SOS's appointment. Loved the guy as a player, my favourite of all time, but how much did we look around? The approach to Graeme Wright was a disaster and that was our current President. Doesn't give you much faith. No more jobs for the boys and a coach bringing in people he's comfortable working with. I want the best coach we can secure and the best bunch of assistants possible. The best fitness people we can get, the best CFO, dieticians...so on. Changes to the board and more detail on what they're doing. No more passengers. I wouldn't have a clue what Marcus Clarke does for our club. If he's doing some great work, then we should hear about it. That pretty well sums it up for me. |
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| Author: | jimmae [ Fri May 08, 2015 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
Just to answer one question, I think Marcus Clarke is our legal counsel on the board. |
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| Author: | dane [ Fri May 08, 2015 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
jimmae wrote: Just to answer one question, I think Marcus Clarke is our legal counsel on the board. You'd know too. 
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| Author: | cimm1979 [ Fri May 08, 2015 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
cimm1979 wrote: I'm not sure, but I'll know it when I see it. ...........but it will probably require a personal phone call and email from Triggy addressing all my concerns....................because everyone else seems to be getting them! 
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| Author: | jimmae [ Fri May 08, 2015 1:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
Couldn't I be some kind of cool plant? Like Robert Plant? |
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| Author: | dane [ Fri May 08, 2015 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
C'mon jimmae. We all know the answer is no. |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Fri May 08, 2015 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
jimmae wrote: Just to answer one question, I think Marcus Clarke is our legal counsel on the board. Yes he is. Does he do anything else? Simon Wilson was also on the board at the same time. Did we require two lawyers on the board at that time? Marcus Clarke was just an example. I could just as easily asked the question of Zac Fried. What have been his achievements in his time on the board? |
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| Author: | Rod Waddell [ Fri May 08, 2015 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
Explain what the suburban financial planner does on the board. |
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| Author: | Bluey44 [ Fri May 08, 2015 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
I haven't walked away yet, so the question doesn't apply. But you can bet your house that next offseason the club will be trying to create a big media spin campaign around SOS' First Draft !!!! SOS' first intake of Recruits !! The Start of the SOS generation !!! SOS is back !! SOS SOS SOS!! Sons of SOS !!! |
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| Author: | pew1 [ Fri May 08, 2015 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
after this year finished, every 2015 member who applies for 2016 should on a reduce price,especially after all these embarassing performances and there is even more tough games to come. |
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| Author: | bluegirl72 [ Fri May 08, 2015 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
dane wrote: jimmae wrote: Just to answer one question, I think Marcus Clarke is our legal counsel on the board. You'd know too. 
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| Author: | ThePsychologist [ Fri May 08, 2015 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
A clean out of the board. A clear direction regarding re build with everyone heading in the same direction. A full change in coaching and development following an extensive recruiting process. New Football Manager and full review of fitness and medical positions. Carlton reserve grade side playing out of PP. Trading of some senior players and nothing but 8-10 draft picks including 5 inside top 30 for a minimum of 3 years. Kids, kids & kids. New Captain. No quick fixes. No recruitment of free agents for the next 3 years minimum. No more "Donations" to be accepted from rich benefactors. Become a full membership and sponsorship based club. Effort on field driven by next generation. That's a start.  PS I read this today and IMO sums us up perfectly. "Change will only occur for Carlton if they accept reality and lay the foundation for a consistent rebranding full of hope rather than fluff and confusion. " |
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| Author: | jimmae [ Fri May 08, 2015 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
TruBlueBrad wrote: jimmae wrote: Just to answer one question, I think Marcus Clarke is our legal counsel on the board. Yes he is. Does he do anything else? Simon Wilson was also on the board at the same time. Did we require two lawyers on the board at that time? Marcus Clarke was just an example. I could just as easily asked the question of Zac Fried. What have been his achievements in his time on the board? That's probably why Simon Wilson is no longer there; all I can tell you is what's on the club site, that he's also on the football sub-committee along with Lee, Mathieson and Gleeson. That said, I don't think his credentials are anywhere near substantial enough. The biggest problem right now is that the board has 5 people whose collective expertise should only account for 2 or 3 seats on the board, alongside 2 dead ducks. Then you've got Fahour, Sayers and Pratt, who all have question marks, but you can clearly argue for the merit of them being on the board. EDIT: I'm probably taking the thread off track, we can pick this up elsewhere |
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| Author: | Braithy [ Fri May 08, 2015 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
they would have to send around hookers, cocaine and wayne harmes to my house for an indefinite amount of time. |
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| Author: | bondiblue [ Fri May 08, 2015 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
Talk straight and drop the fluff. Carlton is like an Optus add. First to market for everything yet first to fail, and they dont give a shit as long as history is made, or hype is maintained. Whoever announced the rebuild after round 3 should go. Seriously damaging to the club. Engage the younger supporters in every state. Players should be building bridges engaging kids and youth to help grow our supporter base. The opposite is not an option Change the Board. They have failed year after year. I want to know what intellectual and financial value they add. Members and supporters should have a right to now who is governing OUR club. Development coaches required. Move the ones who arre there now because our skills are appauling. If the club cant focus and fix the glaring problem Levi has with kicking then they thats enough eason for change there. Explain rebuild. That's what weve been doing since 2003. I dont want to support another 10 year lie. Send out a request to all current and ex members regarding seating and do whatever they have to do to seat families and friends together again. The cluub has destroyed the social fabric the club was built in in some sections of our fan base. I like the 66 game goal of SOS. I dont have a problem with him at the helm, I have a problem with what we do to identify talent not only the TAC but throughout every major league in the country, then developing them. New coach wih thorough interview process. Still cannot believe we over looked Hinkley even back in Rattens day. Theres another Hinkley out there. Draft players who can kick and show an aggressive side ala Hawks mantra when Clarkson took the helm. Not interested in 100% athletes, or 100% good character. We need footballers not premadonas. There's so much more....but I want honesty, transparency and democracy with people running the place with ffresh iideas and sincere love of the club: club first. |
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| Author: | Goltzenberg [ Fri May 08, 2015 4:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
Complimentary scones by the looks of it |
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| Author: | Goltzenberg [ Fri May 08, 2015 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What would it take to renew your membership? |
Bring back Fev, if Malthouse stays. Take the circus to the next level. |
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