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David Buttifant. A miss.
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Author:  John James [ Sat May 02, 2015 12:13 am ]
Post subject:  David Buttifant. A miss.
Collingwood mate of mine said Buttifant was let go because he traded on one thing, the altitude factor. When a Burgess came in at Port, he changed the game with heat training and a lot more running.

I've heard that apart from Curnow, Thomas and Mick that is hated universally within the club.

Looking at our physical attributes against other teams, we seem non competitive.
Author:  Bluey44 [ Sat May 02, 2015 12:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: David Buttifant. A Myth?
I heard that Sticks hates him too

And Dave Hughes does

Megan Gale told me she hates him too


In fact i heard that he even hates himself!!
Author:  cimm1979 [ Sat May 02, 2015 12:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: David Buttifant. A Myth?
John James wrote:
Collingwood mate of mine said Buttifant was let go because he traded on one thing, the altitude factor. When a Burgess came in at Port, he changed the game with heat training and a lot more running.

I've heard that apart from Curnow, Thomas and Mick that is hated universally within the club.

Looking at our physical attributes against other teams, we seem non competitive.


Yeah well, I agree.

But be prepared for the "they're just lazy" crowd, who will be along any minute now.

I have no inside knowledge, but the only sides we've been able to go with for a game have been the notoriously poor finishers Essendon* and the barely legal Saints.

My most vivid memories this year was our guys running on the spot halfway through the second quarter in rounds one and two.
Author:  jimmae [ Sat May 02, 2015 12:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: David Buttifant. A Myth?
I hope he's not a one-trick pony, and that he's in contact and reading the latest for his profession and working in tandem with the physio, medical, technical and sports science teams.

If he isn't, he's not doing his job to the best of his ability.

FWIW, I think we're running games out but we have a few pea hearts. The athletic output we're seeing out of Buckley, Cripps, Boekhorst, Murphy, Docherty, DVR and many others is impressive compared to previous seasons and the pre-season.

I think we've been slow to slim down as a list given the current trends in the game, but there are plenty of success stories.
Author:  cimm1979 [ Sat May 02, 2015 12:44 am ]
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jimmae wrote:
I hope he's not a one-trick pony, and that he's in contact and reading the latest for his profession and working in tandem with the physio, medical, technical and sports science teams.

If he isn't, he's not doing his job to the best of his ability.

FWIW,[color=#80FF00] I think we're running games out but we have a few pea hearts.[/color] The athletic output we're seeing out of Buckley, Cripps, Boekhorst, Murphy, Docherty, DVR and many others is impressive compared to previous seasons and the pre-season.

I think we've been slow to slim down as a list given the current trends in the game, but there are plenty of success stories.


@#$%&! me sideways.

The only games where we've outlasted anyone was against the drug free Bombers who only play 3/4s and the baby saints.

We are the only side who's fitness gets better at the end of the year, guess why? Because they finally get the miles in their legs as the season progresses.

Buttifant is a failure.
Author:  vangipuss [ Sat May 02, 2015 12:51 am ]
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Collingwood had 12 players who had played less the 50 games on the field tonight. None of them greatly talented, some are even rejects from other clubs, but as is the case in almost all of our games for the last 3 years, we can not run with them. Not even close.

Everyone is trying to come up with different ways to blame malthouse or the players, or lack of this so called talent which we supposedly are the only club without, but the bottom line is that we are no where near as fit as any other side in the comp. We are physically incabable to compete and we can recruit as much 'talent' as we want, but I'm affraid that unless we subscribe to whatever 'programs' other clubs are doing, we won't compete
Author:  jimmae [ Sat May 02, 2015 12:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: David Buttifant. A Myth?
They're not collapsing on the field at the end of a match.

Anaerobic performance is an issue, in so far as we're not super human and can't chase all our turn overs. It starts with a little nervousness, and then it turns into full blown tired kicks.

Having an underdone Whiley, Walker, Warnock and apparently Jaksch, Gibbs and Jones has an impact too. We're clearly juggling a bit, and we probably need to stop doing that.
Author:  Hornet [ Sat May 02, 2015 12:51 am ]
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Are we talking known knowns? known unknowns? unknown unknowns?
Author:  cimm1979 [ Sat May 02, 2015 12:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: David Buttifant. A Myth?
jimmae wrote:
They're not collapsing on the field at the end of a match.

Anaerobic performance is an issue, in so far as we're not super human and can't chase all our turn overs. It starts with a little nervousness, and then it turns into full blown tired kicks.


God, give me strength.
Author:  John James [ Sat May 02, 2015 12:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: David Buttifant. A Myth?
We had 6 staff under Buttifant last year. 2 left and haven't been replaced.
Author:  jimmae [ Sat May 02, 2015 12:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: David Buttifant. A Myth?
cimm1979 wrote:
jimmae wrote:
They're not collapsing on the field at the end of a match.

Anaerobic performance is an issue, in so far as we're not super human and can't chase all our turn overs. It starts with a little nervousness, and then it turns into full blown tired kicks.


God, give me strength.

For the benefit of those casually reading the forum, would you like to expand on your point?

I'm going to knock off for the night, so whatever discouragement you feel you have from posting with impunity goes with me, I guess. :lol:
Author:  cimm1979 [ Sat May 02, 2015 1:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: David Buttifant. A Myth?
jimmae wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
jimmae wrote:
They're not collapsing on the field at the end of a match.

Anaerobic performance is an issue, in so far as we're not super human and can't chase all our turn overs. It starts with a little nervousness, and then it turns into full blown tired kicks.


God, give me strength.

For the benefit of those casually reading the forum, would you like to expand on your point?

I'm going to knock off for the night, so whatever discouragement you feel you have from posting with impunity goes with me, I guess. :lol:


You talk shit jimmae.

apart from that I'm sure a hellava nice guy.
Author:  trublu [ Sat May 02, 2015 8:54 am ]
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John James wrote:
We had 6 staff under Buttifant last year. 2 left and haven't been replaced.



The club is under going severe cost cutting across all levels. Plenty of Admin staff and football staff have lost their positions. The club has some serious cash issues. It's inly going go to get worse.
Author:  buzzaaaah [ Sat May 02, 2015 9:40 am ]
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They wer shit in the first and second quarters. Fitness isn't their issue.
Author:  robertbb [ Sat May 02, 2015 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: David Buttifant. A Myth?
trublu wrote:
John James wrote:
We had 6 staff under Buttifant last year. 2 left and haven't been replaced.



The club is under going severe cost cutting across all levels. Plenty of Admin staff and football staff have lost their positions. The club has some serious cash issues. It's inly going go to get worse.


If that is the case, we are even more [REDACTED] than I thought when I woke up this morning. And that's saying something.
Author:  ThePsychologist [ Sat May 02, 2015 9:46 am ]
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trublu wrote:
John James wrote:
We had 6 staff under Buttifant last year. 2 left and haven't been replaced.



The club is under going severe cost cutting across all levels. Plenty of Admin staff and football staff have lost their positions. The club has some serious cash issues. It's inly going go to get worse.


Seriously? :cry:
Author:  Drewgirl [ Sat May 02, 2015 10:56 am ]
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Our fitness turned to poo once this guy came on board. Fact........
Author:  cimm1979 [ Sat May 02, 2015 10:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: David Buttifant. A Myth?
Drewgirl wrote:
Our fitness turned to poo once this guy came on board. Fact........


Is there anything MM has brought to the club has been a success?
Author:  choo [ Sat May 02, 2015 11:08 am ]
Post subject:  David Buttifant. A Myth?
trublu wrote:
John James wrote:
We had 6 staff under Buttifant last year. 2 left and haven't been replaced.



The club is under going severe cost cutting across all levels. Plenty of Admin staff and football staff have lost their positions. The club has some serious cash issues. It's inly going go to get worse.


Cost cutting?
I can think of $500,000 they can save next year
Author:  jimmae [ Sat May 02, 2015 11:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: David Buttifant. A Myth?
ThePsychologist wrote:
trublu wrote:
John James wrote:
We had 6 staff under Buttifant last year. 2 left and haven't been replaced.



The club is under going severe cost cutting across all levels. Plenty of Admin staff and football staff have lost their positions. The club has some serious cash issues. It's inly going go to get worse.


Seriously? :cry:

Credit to Trigg & McKay for going through a 6-month process for all of this.

I'm sure they'll beef up the necessary departments with a watchful eye.
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